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sewer fee, as does the house, which also has plumbing, a toilet or two. And so that there are <br />two charges going for that wider double property. Is that appropriate or not? <br />NAKATANI: I would say, try that again. I'm sorry, Ms. Adams. <br />ADAMS: That's okay. It is confusing. I'm trying to figure out how to answer the question simply. <br />There are two units that have the capability of sending sewage to the sewer, public sewer? Yes <br />or no? <br />NAKATANI: Yes. <br />ADAMS: And therefore there would be two sewer usage bills. <br />NAKATANI: Yes. In the field, we would consider it two units. <br />ADAMS: Whether or not anybody ever flushes the toilet. <br />NAKATANI: Whether or not anybody flushes the toilet because there are plumbing fixtures and <br />there's water. <br /> <br />ADAMS: Thank you. That's my question. Any other commissioners have a question for Ms. <br />Nakatani? No? Seeing none. Ms. Kekai, any follow up? <br />KEKAI: Sure. Just one quick one. Inspector Nakatani, or I think you have a new title now. So I'll <br />just say, Ms. Nakatani, when you spoke about habitable, you used the term habitable because <br />the definition of an occupied unit -- tell me why you use the term habitable. <br />NAKATANI: Habitable for inspection, sewer inspection, would mean an area where you could <br />potentially lay your head and would have the basic roof, walls, things like that. That's what I <br />would consider habitable. <br /> <br />KEKAI: So this unit that you inspected could possibly use as a studio. <br />NAKATANI: That's what I would, yes, it could. <br />KEKAI: Thank you. No further questions. <br />ADAMS: Okay. Are we ready to move to your next witness? I see a hand waving from Ritchie <br />Henderson. <br />HENDERSON: Yes, Chair. I would like to further address Ms. Nakatani's testimony that she <br />recently provided. <br /> <br />22 <br /> <br /> <br />