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You know, I disagree with Mr. Krueger's contention that once there's an appeal, the <br />Commission loses jurisdiction to do anything. That's because clearly under your rules, <br />Qnadqs&rQtkdr can be applied, at your discretion, of course, okay. If you were to carry out <br />Mr. Krueger's argument to an extreme, that this Commission wouldn't have jurisdiction, then <br />all of the counter arguments that have been made against Doutor, why don't you just go file an <br />amendment? Does that mean you have jurisdiction to change the permit if I file for an <br />amendment? Somehow I get jurisdiction, you get jurisdiction back then, even if the appeal is <br />going? Okay. So if the answer to that is yes, then I think we need to break it down and <br />understand, but clearly, there isn't anything that I know of under State law which says you <br />cannot use your rules to revisit an issue, okay. <br />Mr. Yuen's characterization of what we're doing is way off base. He's talking about <br />reconsideration under Qnadqs&rQtkdr that is a separate motion that you could have made. And, <br />st <br />in fact, if you recall, after the permit was issued, the final decision was made on August 1, <br />but it took some while to get it in writing and get it signed, we filed a request for you to <br />reconsider, for you to consider a motion to reconsider, and this was back in August, I believe, <br />of last year. Before you could take that up, the Chairman had already signed the written <br />decision, so when we came to the hearing, your Corp. Counsel advised you you can't, you <br />can't do a reconsideration because the decision is already signed and issued. <br />And so when we came back to you, we were referring to another rule in Qnadqs&rQtkdr, and <br />again, your rules say that your procedure, you know, is also governed by Qnadqs&rQtkdr, <br />okay. So in here, there was a motion to rescind, that's another one, and a motion to amend <br />something previously adopted, so that's what I believe we argued at the last meeting, and your <br />motion that was carried last week, the last hearing, was based on that. <br />Under Qnadqs&rQtkdr and, you know, I don't want to go too long here, but I can read it for <br />you if you want, Qnadqs&rQtkdr says that motion can be made at any time, okay, not just <br />within 30 days. The motion to rescind or alter something previously taken is a motion that any <br />one of you can make at any time. And the only restriction or limitation is is that it can't be <br />made if something is too late already, you know, where people have performed, for instance, <br />you give me, you give someone a permit, okay. There are conditions. The person goes and <br />performs, perhaps spends money. In that kind of a situation, the issues that -, if there's any <br />issue relates to something that the guy's already done, you cannot, out of fairness, go and <br />change that. You cannot, on your own, amend something, amend a condition that then doesn't <br />allow this person to go ahead and do what he or she could have done under the permit. So <br />there is that restriction. But again, under Qnadqs&rQtkdr, what you did at the last meeting is <br />entirely allowable, it's specifically provided for, and there's no impropriety that I would see. <br />You know, and I also take issue with this idea that somehow, you know, we're -, we want to <br />lead you guys down a primrose path because we don't care about you or good government or <br />the public interest or anything like that, we just care about our client. I ask you to think about <br />that for a second. How much sense does it make for me to hoodwink you to do something <br />15 <br /> <br />