2021-11-23 Redistricting Commission minutes (8th Session Part 1)

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KOSSOW: Thank you, Ms. Bath. Any other discussion? HUSTACE: Chair? KOSSOW: Mr. Hustace. HUSTACE: Thank you. We can definitely shift the numbers between, on this one, between 4 and 6. To try to get Eden Roc, Glenwood, Fern Forest back into that District 4. Let's see, the BATH: If I just may say, you're not putting them back into District 4. You're putting them into District 5 where they belong. What you've done is you've taken you've kind of swapped HUSTACE: Commissioner. Commissioner, the numbers are the numbers. Like, it doesn't matter what is Council 4 or 5. We can talk about that another time. At our last meeting, you talked about keeping Kapoho and all the coastal districts, Kaimu in one district, right? So, I tried to do that here. They are in District 5 in this case. Just to get Hawaiian Beaches, Leilani Estates, all the way to Kalapana and Kapoho all in one. That's what we were talking about, right? BATH: Right. I see. So, what you've done is you've just changed the district numbers. You've just changed their names actually, is what you've done yeah? HUSTACE: Yeah. So, District 4 is more of the Hawaiian Acres area. The number is just the number of how their numbered based upon where you originate it from. Council 5 is that sweeping part along part of Hawaiian Paradise Park, Kapoho, Pahoa, Leilani Estates, and Kalapana, all the way to the edge of the Park. I tried to keep that all together as you requested. BATH: Understood. That's good enough. HUSTACE: The Council 4 and 6, we can try and move those numbers back and forth to find a place where we're more comfortable between 6 and 4. Just in this case that's just Council 4. Don't think about the district number as that's the district you live in right now. That's just a number of district. So, does that make sense? BATH: Oh, yeah. Yeah. HUSTACE: I'd be happy to switch between 4 and 6. And try and move more of Eden Roc, Fern Forest, Glenwood into Council 4 in this case here. And then we could—you'll see the numbers move greatly against 6 here. In this iteration here, Council 4 is negative two under. So, we just need to keep that in mind. Thank you. BATH: This is Stephanie Bath. I appreciate what you've done. That was very consistent with what you're calling District 5. It might just be confusing to the public is what I'm 21