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YUEN They do not have to pay them. <br />ALAMEDA: Okay, so if they are correct they don’t pay the fines? <br />YUEN: That’s right. <br />ALAMEDA: Even if it’s accrued it doesn’t matter? <br />YUEN: Right. Then it will be wiped out. <br />ALAMEDA: Right. But if the Department is correct, then they pay those fines that are <br />accrued? <br />YUEN: Right. <br />ALAMEDA: And the law is saying right now that once they appeal, fines, there’s no <br />accruement; so there’s a big motivation for them appeal just so they can stop accruement. Is that <br />correct? <br />YUEN: Right. <br />ALAMEDA: And this proposal, what you’re sharing with us, would eliminate that <br />option for them so that it will decrease the motivation just to appeal? <br />YUEN: Exactly. <br />ALAMEDA: Got it. Thank you. <br />WATANABE: Yes, Mr. Woodward. <br />WOODWARD: Yeah, Chris, I’d like to ask, if they appeal and fines have been set at a <br />certain level and they lose their appeal, do they have to pay the fine between the time that they <br />appeal and the time the appeal is judged in your favor or not? <br />YUEN: If they continue the activity, yes. <br />WOODWARD: Okay. So if they appeal it puts the fines on hold but it doesn’t stop them <br />so that if they lose the appeal they have to pay those fines for the days between the time that the <br />appeal was filed and the time that they were denied? <br />YUEN: Right. If this amendment is passed, that’s what would happen. <br />WOODWARD: But that’s not what happens now? <br />YUEN: Correct. <br />WOODWARD: Okay. And also I think you ought to get guns for the inspectors. <br /> EXHIBIT D <br />3 <br /> <br />