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are looking at how do we prioritize? Then it gets even more complex because, as you say, we <br /> have subdivisions that don't have fire hydrants, right? So now what do we need for a fire <br /> hydrant? We need a waterline. So now we need to go and get that infrastructure put in to bring <br /> those fire hydrants in to serve existing units. Simultaneously, we are in a housing crisis, so we <br /> need new units in other places, and what do we absolutely need for those new units? Water. So <br /> now these really tricky conversations come up of where do we put that money? Do we serve the <br /> existing? Do we serve the new? Similarly to even like our cesspool conversions, and we need, <br /> you know, other wastewater systems like which we are tackling existing and we are also going <br /> after new. So it's really trying to find that balance. I feel like this administration is really <br /> pushing forward to find creative solutions and go through that. All of those policies that you've <br /> seen, we review as a Planning Department when an application comes in. So we review the <br /> projects against all of those policies, GP, CDP, and that's how we kind of help, it helps make that <br /> decision: hey, it's consistent with it, we can support it, it's not consistent with it, we can't <br /> supportit. So you folks are seeing that project by project. The challenge is how do we get <br /> somebody to do more, how do we get somebody to do, you know, more affordable housing, <br /> specifically. And so, like right now we have an area in that, that TOD node within that Kona <br /> urban core area where we could potentially do 1,500 affordable housing units; however, we can't <br /> get the water out of the ground to do it, even though the sustainable yield is there. So it's you <br /> layer compound after compound after compounding, you know, challenge, and it's kind of one <br /> of those things that it could sit there and not a lot be done. And I feel like we've seen just for <br /> many years there's a lot of deferred maintenance that's coming up and something that personally <br /> I don't like to not do, I like to do. So we are trying to do what we can to solve these areas. It <br /> doesn't answer all your questions, Commissioner, but it's some framework of these, how we are <br /> trying to tackle these ongoing constant issues while those policies remain and continue to uplift <br /> those within the decisions that we are making. I hope that helps a little bit. <br /> YATES: Yes, thank you, I mean at least it gives us some insight to it. Thank you. <br /> KERN: Absolutely. <br /> VITOUSEK: Commissioner Paishon-Duarte. <br /> PAISHON-DUARTE: Thank you. Yeah, thank you, Zendo, for providing more context, you <br /> know, competing interests and timelines and resources and so forth. I actually have a,just a <br /> vernacular question; what does infill mean? You had mentioned it in one of your slides. I'm <br /> sorry I don't know what that means. <br /> KERN: Sure, so infill development is when you are basically in-filling an existing area. So like <br /> a really good area would be, say, the old industrial area of Kailua-Kona, so right where, say, the <br /> brewery block is, that whole area; if you were to go in there and start developing, that's infill <br /> development. So we are now, we are in-filling in that area, kind of already existing area, already <br /> had impact, already had the disturbance, versus going outside of that area and now we are <br /> actually creating a new disturbance, a new area, "greenfield development"they call it, and we <br /> are creating new. So that's kind of the difference between those two. You know, modern <br /> planning practices is to try to do as much infill as possible and then limit that. And so we are <br /> 10 <br /> EXHIBIT B <br />