2022-04-07 Windward Exh B (Item 1 Holcomb PL-SMA-2021-007)

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AU: Thank you Ms. Campbell. Any other Commissioners? Do we have any further discussion Commissioner Lin? LIN: Yes, I just think that the applicant and the representatives here have shown that they are committed to providing access to the fishermen and they'll try their best to regulate and help protect those who are coming through. I just saying, "Hey, you guys know want you're going into and we're not liable if you do things that are beyond our control." We can't control, if more pine needles are falling on the floor or if part of the cliff is a little bit more slippery than usual. But I think the applicant has shown that they are willing to put in some conditions themselves for those people who are coming through. That will be a further discussion beyond us as a Commission is between them and the people who are coming through their property. AU: Thank you Commissioner Lin. Any other Commissioners discussion or comments? Commissioner Aguinaldo? AGUINALDO: Thank you Mr. Chair. I agree as well with the applicant and also with the representative that they gave a thorough explanation, as well as their presentation, as far as the liability factor as the landowner, as well as the liability that is in place under the property and as well as on the easement. I presume there's as stated that they're going to have a liability form and like Commissioner De Luz also indicated of some form of log in like hunters if there's going to be a gate. In addition to that is placard with again a reminder of the risk liability what they're getting themselves into. If there's one at the gate and one kind of closer to the shoreline before the ladder and before they got a parrel down. It's repetitive, where hey, you guys taking risks, and it's not open to the public. Which is you got to check in and I think they handled it well the applicant and all the representatives that they have thoroughly explained everything. As far as the liability, I know everybody's concerned was safety. Yes, there is safety to think about but there's also a risk that they're willing to take the representative and the applicant. So, I just wanted to comment on that. Thank you. AU: Thank you Commissioner Aguinaldo. Mr. Roy did you have something? ROY: I just wanted to add for the Commissioners review that the applicant has stated that they would put signage up noting the difficulty, noting the hazard so there'll be clear signage to any fishermen that will be coming down there. AU: Okay, thank you. Mr. Knable you have your hand up. KNABLE: Yes,just to kind of reiterate the point that Alex just made, we were committed to 6 to eight(8) warning signs placed along the corridor areas that we feel will be the most effective. And to make it very clear that this is a dangerous cliff to be accessing for fishing. In terms of the question on the management components that Commissioner De Luz has raised. We've been having some initial discussions with the fishing association and similar to what Councilmember Kimball has said. We're envisioning having a gate there that will be managed, we may have a combination lock that we may make available to the association, and there will be a registration process. The Makahanaloa Fishing Association they also manage an area in Pepe`ekeo and in 12 EXHIBIT B