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STRAUSS: Anyway, this is where the thinking started, that rather than develop this <br />consistent with the zoning that existed was to do something that complimented the existing <br />Kalani Honua. And if we’re looking at density issues, what legally the owners would be entitled <br />to in terms of density and the number of people who would permanently be there is far in excess <br />of what is permitted under the special permit and what they’re seeking to do with the property. <br />Under the special permit of these structures that would be built, a maximum of 13, at least two <br />rooms are required for transient accommodations, what we call guests here, and one room is <br />faculty or guest, which again has a maximum 39 for 13 units within the 40 maximum of the <br />lodge. The staff room, “S”, which will presumably be occupied by somebody like <br />Mr. Squassoni, not the entire structure but one room, he’s not obtaining exclusive rights to the <br />entire structure, he’s obtaining rights to occupy one room, is dedicated under the special permit <br />for non-guest housing. The proposal that we put forward is the same use, non-guest housing, one <br />room of each potential hale, a total of 13 maximum permanent residents. <br />And if you think in terms of residency as occupancy, it is a room that’s permanently dedicated <br />not for use by guests. That’s what the special permit requires. A room of at least one of the four <br />cannot be used by guests because then you exceed the lodge. That’s contemplated under the <br />special permit and required by the special permit. So when we’re saying that we’re having one <br />person there all the time, not as a guest, it’s exactly what the special permit requires us to have. <br />This is not some benefit, some way of bringing in permanent residents to occupy all of these <br />rooms. We can’t do it. The permit prevents us from doing it; and we don’t want to do it. The <br />whole purpose is to fund the ability to maximize the guest accommodations that are necessary to <br />support the continued operations of Kalani Honua, for people to participate in the programs that <br />are offered that is the gravamen of the special permit, the educational wellness, cultural <br />opportunities, and to provide more rooms for guests. That’s why I want to make sure that I <br />clarified that. This is not a way to flood this property with permanent residents. It’s not <br />permitted, it’s not allowed. <br />GRAHAM: Commissioner Rho, you had a comment, question? <br />RHO: Maybe you can stay there and -. This says guest housing. And what’s on <br />the side of that? What are those figures? <br />STRAUSS: Here? <br />RHO: Yes. <br />STRAUSS: Oh, this shows -. <br />NOMURA: Microphone. <br />STRAUSS: I’m sorry, this is just a G, a G, and an F, G to correspond to what’s here, <br />guest, guest and what the County with the special permit says, it is a faculty room that can be <br />served as guest housing as well. <br /> EXHIBIT C 15 <br /> <br />