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happen to have two houses on your property, it doesn’t make a difference, you can’t sell them the house. Yes, you have a question? SIRACUSA: Yes, could I, just a bit of clarification. GRAHAM: Commissioner Siracusa, go ahead. SIRACUSA: Thank you. Could you sell someone a half interest in that one acre and then decide between the two of you that they can use that back half and you would use the front half without it being, you know -? I’m wondering if there’s a way to get around. People are always looking for loopholes, you know. YUEN: Technically you can sell somebody a half interest in your property, then you become tenants in common. Legally you have the right to use the full property. Informally, you can agree. It’s not legally enforceable though. I mean if you tried to enforce the agreement then that becomes an issue with the subdivision law. Okay? So you cannot have a legally enforceable interest in the property that you sell. So the next thing -. SIRACUSA: Even if you did a private contract between the two parties? YUEN: This would not be enforceable. SIRACUSA: It would not be enforceable, okay. YUEN: Right. So the next thing is, if you recall we, ten people will try to do condominiums and they would say this is not a subdivision, this is a condominium. The condominium looks awfully like a subdivision, but there was a legal argument that it wasn’t a subdivision. In the end the County passed an ordinance that essentially calls, and the issue here, a lot of Commissioners weren’t here when we passed this ordinance with the County. But the issue here was, just to take the example in Paradise Park, say, and it would go hand in hand with the fact that you could put more than one house on a lot, say somebody had gotten an ohana permit and had built two houses on a lot in Paradise Park, then they would create a condominium and sell one house as a one condominium unit, and the other house as the other condominium unit. This got to be a big issue in the agricultural areas. Because, to just take an example, you have areas that are zoned Ag-20 acres, so you’re a 20-acre minimum lot size. So you would have a 20-acre lot that would then be condominiumized into several different interests. It’s creating a virtual subdivision and really creating a loophole in the Subdivision Law; and then you have no ability to control density in the land, Agricultural District any more. So this is actually becoming a predominant way of dividing up land in the Agricultural District, rather than through subdivision, particularly for these two or three unit issues. So that’s an example of the way that people try to get around condominiums. So just to bring this back to this discussion, the concern here is they appear to be selling an exclusive interest in a unit which occupies a piece of ground. And we do not understand how you can do that without it being a subdivision or some other kind of land interest that is being violated here by, that they’re basically violating subdivision law by trying to sell an interest in a EXHIBIT C 4