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<br />the issue of boulders blocking access to the ʻŌlaʻa Forest Reserve behind the Volcano <br />Solid Waste Transfer Station. <br />AA: Right now it looks like we got Mr. Ramzi Mansour acting Solid Waste Division Chief, sorry. We’ll <br />have a discussion on up at the Volcano Transfer Station about the boulders blocking the public <br />access to Olaa Forest Reserve. <br /> <br />RM: Yes, Aloha Commissioners – this is Ramzi Mansour – the Director of the Department <br />of Environmental Management and I believe also I have my Acting Solid Waste Division Chief <br />Mike Kaha, as well, on the line. And we’re here today to address any of your questions or <br />concerns pertaining to that road accessing DLNR property, the reason my staff – we definitely <br />need to get into an agreement – we have no issues people accessing that road for hunting <br />purposes but the challenge that we have from a transfer station operation – people have been <br />cutting the fences and getting inside our facility to do – to wash their games after they finish the <br />hunting process and, um, it’s just not being secure. So we need to get into some type of <br />memorandum of agreement with DLNR on the responsibility of maintaining that road and the <br />gate to it so at least we don’t have vandalism and people cutting our fence to the transfer <br />station so we definitely don’t object to the idea of people accessing that road – it just – we need <br />to get into a better understanding of the role and responsibilities. So if Mike, if you, I don’t know <br />if he’s already logged in – he could add more to it but like I said, we don’t object to people <br />accessing but we need to have an agreement with DLNR on the maintenance and the upkeep of, <br />you know, people cutting the fences and what have you – going into our facility. <br /> <br />AA: OK. First of all, thanks for correcting me on your position, Mr. Mansour. I was just going off of <br />what was written over here, but, anyway, thanks for the correction. As far as what you’re <br />stating, I really don’t think you’re correct because if somebody gonna catch a game in the back <br />of your guys’ facility you guys don’t have potable water so that doesn’t make sense to me of <br />who – why would they be washing their game with unpotable, unclean water? Who would do <br />that? <br /> <br />SM: Well, that, well, I’m just reporting to you what my staff has been noticed, right… <br /> <br />SM: ….over the year and… <br /> <br />AA: Right, I understand and I’m just stating that… So, like I said many times before, I’m a lifelong <br />resident here and I’ve been hunting up there for many years and I’ve been there from before <br />the facility was upgraded, right, and there was no problem back them – the only problem was <br />the problem that you probably still have today – if you open up the road is, even though your <br />transfer station is right there – people still seem – still not to find out how to dump their trash, <br />right, so we still would be encountering the problem of people dumping the trash on the side of <br />your guy' facility. Now, when you guys upgraded the facility – you guys put the fence in there – <br />it’s not hunters that’s breaking in – so hunters and gatherers should not be penalized for other <br />people’s negligence for cutting you guys’ fence for trespassing – Barett you like put up that one <br />picture with the two people walking on the… I personally took this picture on a weekend when I <br />was up there and this is two people while the facility is closed that went through the fence that <br />somebody cut through – do they look like hunters or gatherers to you? <br /> <br />2 <br /> <br /> <br />