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KANUHA: Okay, but, but, but as a whole moving forward not only on this amendment but
<br /> moving forward on this project, has there been any, you know, any communication between, like
<br /> I said, the cultural or any lineal descendants there in moving forward to, like I said, with the
<br /> Burial Council?
<br /> ARAI: I'm trying to anticipate
<br /> KANUHA: [Inaudible simultaneous speech]
<br /> ARAI: Yeah, I'm sorry, go ahead.
<br /> KANUHA: No, no, the floor is yours.
<br /> ARAI: Well, because of the nature of the request—again, it's very, very limited in scope, and
<br /> we've demonstrated how far the applicant has come to within just inches of getting a Final
<br /> Subdivision Approval before funding was lost. I, and with all due respect, I would be, I'm trying
<br /> to understand what it would accomplish, you know, given the scope of the request that we have
<br /> before you today.
<br /> KANUHA: Yeah, yeah, yes, definitely, and for me,just, I'm looking at a broad spectrum of
<br /> things. I know the requests and the agenda that's on hand but also the decision that we make
<br /> here moving it forward. Obviously, I want to make sure everything is, you know, everything is
<br /> pono on both sides, you know, it's, and that's why these questions are being asked; they are just
<br /> some notes that I've written down. I thank you for your answer. And I've got a few more
<br /> questions, but I'm letting some of the Commissioners go ahead of me.
<br /> VITOUSEK: I just have a quick follow-up on Commissioner Kanuha's question regarding lineal
<br /> cultural descendants. The burial treatment plan indicates the search for lineal cultural
<br /> descendants that was done but doesn't indicate whether any lineal cultural descendants were
<br /> recognized for these sites by the Hawaii Island Burial Council. Were there any lineal and
<br /> cultural descendants recognized for this project?
<br /> ARAI: Personally, I am not aware of, if any were specifically identified. And I'm trying to
<br /> search through some of the records now.
<br /> FUKE: Mr. Chairman, this is Sydney Fuke. I'm just kind of thinking out loud right now, but,
<br /> you know, unfortunately, you know, like we don't have the presence of the archaeologist who
<br /> prepared and represented the applicant before the Burial Council who would be most qualified
<br /> and adept to answer that question. So if the commi-you know, and I sense that this is a very
<br /> important question that Commissioner Kanuha had raised, and so, you know, I don't know what
<br /> the outcome of the application is, but if it happens to be continued, then we will make sure that
<br /> the archaeologist is here to provide a response [inaudible noise]
<br /> VITOUSEK: Mahalo, yes.
<br /> KANUHA: Thank you, Sid
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