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but then we ended up acquiring the parcel. But that was never really an option back in 2009, <br /> between 2009 and 2018, because there was no control over that land, that parcel,just FYI. <br /> ARAI: And, Mr. Chairman, yeah, I can also note that in the abundance of caution, the possibility <br /> of Hawaii Two2 being pursued was included in the traffic impact analysis report, and so that <br /> was like, sort of like the best case scenario, and even with that, the additionalI think it was <br /> possibility of 50 additional units—even with that, the intersections had the sufficient capacity for <br /> both projects. But be, again, be aware that it was just something included in the analysis as a as <br /> a worst-case scenario. <br /> VITOUSEK: All right, I mean, and that's sort of what I'm referring to in terms of cumulative <br /> impact is that if you are building a development road, the purpose for building that is to develop <br /> the areas that are adjacent to that road, right? <br /> ARAI: I mean that would be optimal, sure, if you are building an expensive road. <br /> VITOUSEK: That's why you are, that's why you are building the road. Yep, go ahead, <br /> Christian. <br /> KAY: I would say that if in the event that the Hawaii Two2 property were to come in and try <br /> and actualize a development of that property, they would have to go through, well, State Land <br /> Use boundary amendment and rezoning, as well as an SMA Major Use Permit process, at that <br /> point. Going through the Minor Permit process was an option available to them, given the scope <br /> of the roadway project as a standalone connector road. <br /> VITOUSEK: Okay. And, oh, last question I guess would be for the developers. I'm just <br /> curious; what was the source of financing, and why was it lost, for the project? <br /> M. MANSL It was a construction loan and from a bank in California. <br /> VITOUSEK: And why was it lost? <br /> M. MANSL Well, we ran out of time. We were up against our time extension, or we were up <br /> against our permit expiring, or entitlements expiring. <br /> VITOUSEK: Okay, so they had the same conditions for completion that we did, but they just <br /> walked away when their conditions weren't met. <br /> M. MANSL Yeah, we had a number of lenders walk away. Each time we met with a different <br /> one and went down the road, and it took months, so we eventually ran out of time. <br /> VITOUSEK: Okay, and this time around, what would be different? <br /> M. MANSL Well, I'm hopeful that with market conditions the way they are and housing, the <br /> demand for housing, that there will be a stronger appetite with lenders. And I've seen that so far <br /> in the couple that I've talked to and then I have term sheets from. <br /> 27 <br /> EXHIBIT D <br />