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any discussion as far as facts, findings, conclusions or anything in any of the material thatwas <br />really brought up in the contested case hearing. So that€s what bothered me. I€m wondering if <br />there is just a little simple explanation for why it came out that way. <br />ALAMEDA:Ms. Todd? <br />LEITHEAD-TODD: When I, in drafting something towards a particular position, my <br />understanding of the rules in drafting is that you don€t have to draft every single finding or refer <br />to every single factual thing. So I looked at those things that I thought were important and that <br />were relevant, and I included them in those. And, in this case, these were going to a Hearings <br />Officer so I basically put in what I thought was relevant to the Conclusions of Law. <br />GRAHAM:So does that mean if I am accurately portraying what I read from the <br />transcript that you didn€t find the intervenor€s contentions and witnesses, and all that, relevant <br />to -? <br />LEITHEAD-TODD:I didn€t think that they were substantial enough in terms of supporting the <br />conclusions of law that I was putting in the proposed findings and proposed conclusions. You€re <br />not required to put everything into your findings when you submit it. It€s just a question of <br />whetheryourfindingsaresupportedbythefactualrecord.AndinthiscaseIfeltthatthe <br />findings that I put in were supported by the factual record. <br />ALAMEDA:Thank you. Commissioner Siracusa? <br />SIRACUSA:Yes. I would like to ask Mr. Young some questions, plural, about co- <br />location. I know that all those utility poles along the highway, the big ones are owned by Helco <br />and the smaller ones are the telephone company. And I understood that although there is a joint <br />pole agreement the Helco was asking more than the telephone company wanted to pay and so the <br />telephone company was allowed to put up their own poles, as a result of which we have a <br />plethora of poles, really unsightly ones along the highway. Now I understand that that sort of <br />thing goes to the Public Utilities Commission. And I€m wondering if you are going to, if your <br />company is going to work up a co-location agreement with, say, another wireless company like <br />Cingular or whatever, whether you would have to go through the Public Utilities Commission, is <br />there a process there, or whether you just negotiate company to company? That€s my first <br />question. <br />ALAMEDA:Thank you. Mr. Young? <br />YOUNG:When it comes to co-location we work directly with another carrier. Their <br />application would need to go through the same process that we€re going through today. We <br />would not need, as far as I€m aware, not need to go through the Public Utilities Commission. <br />We currently have a letter from Cingular Wireless, again it should be part of the record that was <br />submitted, expressing their interest in going on the proposed antenna pole should our proposal be <br />approved. <br />ALAMEDA:Thank you. Commissioner Siracusa? <br />9EXHIBIT B <br /> <br />