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happen in their community; and Councilman Hoffman is certainly very attuned to that. But <br />technically this falls a little bit outside South Kohala so probably it doesn€t really fall within their <br />jurisdiction. And my concern is, you know, just moving essentially residential areas out into our <br />Ag land. And so that€s why I was kind of conflicted about making a recommendation positive at <br />the beginning. But when I looked at the specifics, well, the map is changed, but it€s located <br />across the street from other similarly sized parcels and it is on the Mauna Kea Mountain side of <br />Old Mamalahoa Highway, so it€s not impinging on the pasture land that€s actively used and <br />viewed by all of the folks on the main throughway, highway. And so, you know, on balance, I <br />feel like the community is probably not going to resolve this direction as to whether this zoning <br />is appropriate or not in the near future. And given the particulars of the application, I think I can <br />support it. <br />ALAMEDA:Commissioner Springer. <br />SPRINGER:Couldtheapplicant€sfamilydividetheirinterestthatisnowheldin <br />common on this property without going through subdivision? <br />ALAMEDA:Mr. Director? <br />YUEN:No. <br />ALAMEDA:Commissioner Springer? <br />YUEN:No. This is a tough aspect of the land use laws; and the effect of -. You <br />can, you know, say you have eight family members own a piece of property in undivided <br />interest, informally amongst yourselves you can agree you get to grow things over there, and you <br />get to grow things over there. But that€s not a legal division of the property with respect to the <br />outside world. The subdivision is the only thing that does that. The subdivision is the only thing <br />that enables you to have a piece of, to break that property up into individual lots that you as an <br />individual can own and convey separately from the rest of the property. That€s the fundamental <br />importance of subdivision. <br />ALAMEDA:Commissioner Springer. <br />SPRINGER:So then regardless that the family has held the property since 1877 in <br />leasehold and then in fee simple, in this generation in order for them to divide the property <br />amongst the family, they have to subdivide, and they must be subject to the in-lieu fees or some <br />sort of affordable housing aspect? <br />ALAMEDA:Mr. Director? <br />YUEN:Well, the first part is right. There is, the only exception to subdivisions, <br />we get things, we have what we call pre-existing lot determinations in the Planning Department <br />where there are old grants that are submerged within a tax map key or somebody can prove that <br />the property was actually conveyed before there was a subdivision law that controlled it. What <br />happens in the tax map system is that particularly in plantation areas they would combine grants <br />into one tax map key and, for administrative purposes and billing purposes. The Planning <br />17EXHIBIT A <br /> <br />