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strong is the Community Development Plan in enforcing the policies and the guidelines as <br />contained in there? And there is no strong, strong support for it, no conviction. There are not <br />enough answers. But if they know as they look at an agricultural-designated parcel there is a <br />way that you can conduct other uses, other uses which are unusual but reasonable use,of an <br />agricultural parcel -- and that’s what we’ve been using as a criteria to approve other special <br />permits in the past near, near this location. <br />So what I would like to see if at all possible is that there is a recognition of a special permit <br />procedure that can be used in the development plan. Now I know that today that is, I know that <br />tod ay that is permissible, that is permissible;and we can do that. Yeah? We can say, okay, the <br />uses as proposed and the conditions are appropriate and we can, we can provide for a special <br />permit. But I have a problem, you know, because it’s not in the development plan, the <br />Community Development Plan. And that’s why I asked for that two months’ deferral, so that <br />something like this can be worked out into the plan. <br />KERN: Thank you, Commissioner Domingo. Commissioner Ono? <br />ONO: Yes. As the applicant made a request to the committee regarding the helping out, filling <br />of time for the use by community agencies, oh, community groups, I’ll just ask the previous <br />speaker -. I think I’m also for the delay only because these questions need to be answered as to <br />whether it’s good for business to say, for example, now this is just as an example, that we’ll <br />close by 9 o’clock. I have a relative who is in farming and when we visit he tells me goodnight. <br />I’m at his house in Honokaa and he tells me good night. That means leave because I’m going to <br />go to sleep. So I don’t want to have that difference of conflict between the community as to, not <br />I’m asking -. So for me the delay is we need to have community input. And I really am <br />supportive of your business but I need to have, or at least for me, I’d like to have more <br />community input. Thank you. <br />KERN: Thank you, Mr. Ono. If I could have the applicant and their representative,or and/or, <br />come forward. First off, do you folks agree or are you okay with a deferral, or would you rather <br />see action today one way or the other? <br />T. ROBESON: I guess, I need to be honest. I don’t know that I can make other two months. <br />With no revenue and nothing generated and 2 ½ years invested, I just don’t know if I can do it. <br />As I said when I walked in, this is a culmination of 2 years’ worth of effort going into this. You <br />know, as you were saying about the times, I mean I understand the times. That’s why we put the <br />times in the thing. And I’ve got no issue with adjusting those times and setting, you know, if it’s <br />5:30. I guess you’ve got to see how the day goes. I’ve got a son in Volcano School. We get up <br />in the morning, we get him off to school. He goes to school at 8 o’clock, and we go down, and <br />we start. You know, when you’re laying out the application, you’re trying to think ahead like <br />you said of what could be. And, yeah, you do need prep time in the morning, but we don’t plan <br />on opening before, you know, 7. Set the times at 6 to 6 and then there’s no issue whatsoever <br />with whether somebody is in bed or we’re waking somebody up. We have no problem with that. <br />KERN: So to answer the question, you’re saying no, you’d rather not have a deferral? You <br />don’t want a deferral today? <br />T. ROBESON: I would prefer not to have a deferral only because I’m not sure if we can make it <br />that long and make this -. I mean you may defer this to a point where there’s no point in <br />considering it because we won’t have the wherewithal to continue. <br />MELROSE: Let me add a thought to that, a couple of things. One is I appreciate the desire to <br />get more community input. There is one neighbor here, one neighbor, and he has been here; and <br />he has provided written testimony. And I think the relationship has been such that we’re really <br />25 <br />EXHIBIT A <br /> <br />