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DARROW: Correct. <br />IWASHITA: Okay. And that map shows all of the parking stalls that you observed when you <br />went for your site inspection, is that correct? <br />DARROW: Yes. <br />IWASHITA: Okay, thank you. <br />WOODWARD: Okay, Mr. Tuttle, you can have a seat. Thank you very much. <br />AU: Commissioner Rell, I’ve got one thing to ask. <br />WOODWARD: Oh, I guess we have one more question for you. Commissioner Au. <br />AU: I share Commissioner Iwashita’s concern. You know, is that a property line, that road? Is <br />that a property line? Is that three separate lots? <br />DARROW: Correct. <br />AU: Okay, yeah, you know, it’s just -. A property line is a property line and there are setbacks <br />within that. And, yeah, sure you’re grandfather claused in with that cottage right on your <br />property line. But, you know, that is a property line, so I do share Commissioner Iwashita’s <br />concern. You know, I myself own two properties that’s side by side, very similar like that, and <br />it’s still a property line. You know, I put in things on my property and I have to follow the same <br />rules as a property line. So, you know, if that is a property line and that is actually three lots, the <br />road is one lot, and it’s being subdivided, you know, that still is a property line. So I do share his <br />concerns, if it is. <br />WOODWARD: Madam Director? <br />LEITHEAD TODD: I was going to explain that the way some of these pre-existing <br />nonconforming structures work is that we recognize they’re nonconforming. And unless there is, <br />you know, like a situation where you’re selling off the lot and the guys that’s buying the lot <br />objects to the structure being there so that you’ve got to remove it, or if you subsequently wanted <br />to dedicate the road to the County, then you’d have to remove the encroachment. But we <br />actually in many places on the island have old structures that got built in the wrong place and <br />encroached even on County’s rights-of-way on the roads. And so as long as the County isn’t <br />widening the road we don’t make them tear the structure. And there’s one I’m familiar with up <br />in Kaumana. You know, if the County ever paves to the edge of their right-of-way then the <br />structure has to be torn down. If the structure burns the property owner cannot rebuild it in the <br />place that it currently exists. He would have to then conform to the setbacks on the property line. <br />But basically on a lot of these because they were built so long ago we don’t, unless there is some <br />other reason to make them tear it down or move it, we basically allow these structures to <br />remain -- until such time as either the structure is renovated more than 50 percent, in which case <br />14 <br /> EXHIBIT D <br /> <br />