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So the five I have are William Blok, Matthew Cordts, Curtis Ludwig, Marianne George and <br />Cynthia Northrup. Shall we try to get all five of you up together? It looks like we’ve got five <br />chairs there. <br />NORTHRUP: Excuse me. <br />GRAHAM: Yes, ma’am. <br />NORTHRUP: It’s probably not my jurisdiction, but William Blok is not present. I don’t <br />know if that’s the right one (list). I’m Cynthia Northrup, and I’m here. <br />GRAHAM: Oh, go ahead. This is from last time. I’m sorry. <br />FARWELL: I have a question. As the Intervenor, am I allowed to say anything <br />further? <br />GRAHAM: Let me ask Corporation Counsel. <br />TORIGOE: Well, at this point the contested case hearing is closed. So normally we do <br />not allow for further evidence to be put in by the parties. <br />FARWELL: What is the purpose of all this? <br />TORIGOE: This is public testimony that is required under our Rules. <br />GRAHAM: Sir, it’s like we finished the contested case hearing and we tried to take <br />action last time, and we were unable to get a majority decision. <br />FARWELL: I know I was there. But I haven’t been -. <br />GRAHAM: And then at this point we resume where we left off, and one of the Rules <br />that we follow is whenever we have a public hearing, we always accept testimony from the <br />public. So my sense of my question to Mr. Torigoe is are you a valid speaker as a member of the <br />public at this point of time, not as the Intervenor since your role as the Intervenor was finished <br />when we closed the contested case hearing. That’s my understanding. <br />FARWELL: So what’s the consensus here? <br />TORIGOE: Again, the public hearing actually or the contested case hearing being <br />closed, basically at this point we are not taking further testimony from either the Intervenor or <br />the Applicants or the Planning Director as contested case parties, but we are required to allow the <br />public to come and then give testimony on each agenda item that is contested case. <br />FARWELL: I am rather confused by this whole procedure, but let us see what unfolds <br />as it goes here. So I’m not considered the public; I am as the Intervenor in this, and therefore <br />simply have standing as an Intervenor. That’s the end of that? <br />TORIGOE: That’s basically what we are doing, yes. <br />EXHIBIT D <br />2 <br /> <br />