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GALDONES:Thank you, Ms. Walls. Commissioners, any questions of Ms. Walls? If <br />not, Ms. Kjos you wanted to add to your testimony. Could you speak into the microphone <br />please. Thank you. <br />KJOS:I said this last time also. This easement is not owned by any of us. This <br />easement is owned by Kamehameha Investments, or Bishop Estate, or whatever. It is granted to <br />all of us equally for ingress and egress, and that’s all. We don’t own it. Joe Spencer has <br />informed me that he will be transferring title to all of us at some point in time. He told me that <br />about 4 years ago. So, that’s the lesson. So King Kamehameha Investments is what owns this- <br />this right-of-way, perpetual right-of-way. By right, I guess, they’re the ones that should fix it, I <br />don’t know. <br />GALDONES:Commissioner Springer. <br />SPRINGER:Again, we’re being presented with a number of issues that I think are <br />outside of our proper deliberations, whether it’s bad neighborly activities. But this matter of the <br />ownership of the easement does peak my interest. When we’re deciding on a property owned by <br />an individual but the easement is- to that property is held by a distinct and separate party, should <br />we be taking that ownership into consideration at all? The easement is apparently not owned by <br />all of the residents along the easement, it’s owned by another party. Do their rights or interests <br />enter properly into our deliberations? <br />GALDONES:Mr. Yuen. <br />YUEN:Well, if Mr. Holmes as holder of an easement over the fee- over the <br />property of the finders- if the testimony is correct Bishop Estate is the fee owner, Mr. Holmes <br />has an easement, the others have easements, so they have the right to use it. As Bishop Estate <br />being- they would’ve been on the list of property owners to be notified, right? <br />DARROW:That would be within the 300 feet, I’ll check the file and make sure they <br />were notified. <br />YUEN:I believe we notified them both as holders of the road lot if they are the <br />holders of the road lot and as adjacent property owners independently of that. So they had notice <br />and the opportunity to come in and say if they had any problems with this. <br />SPRINGER:Thank you. <br />GALDONES:Ms. Walls. <br />COOK WALLS:Yeah, I’d like to say one thing. <br />GALDONES:Proceed. <br />COOK WALLS:I’m not talking about the easement. There is an easement but they don’t <br />use the easement. They come on our property that’s- that’s all I’m saying. <br />6 <br /> <br />