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YUEN: Thanks for correcting that. We’ll make that change. Because that whole <br />section of (c) (3) and (4) is not supposed to change, was not supposed to be changed at all, and it <br />is -. In what you have before you, (c) (3) is put in wrong. <br />SIRACUSA: So (3) is wrong. <br />WATANABE: Yeah. <br />YUEN: (c) (3) is wrong; should read differently -. <br />SIRACUSA: Okay, but that’s nothing that we are going to be voting on, right? We are <br />not voting on anything to do with (3). <br />YUEN: Right. There is no change intended to (c) (3); it’s just that it was typed in <br />wrong in the bill that you have in front of you. <br />SIRACUSA: Okay, so it’s irrelevant for our purposes. Then I go to my question then. <br />WATANABE: Okay. <br />SIRACUSA: Chris, and that is, suppose someone appeals, right? Is there a filing fee to <br />appeal? <br />YUEN: Two hundred fifty dollars, yes. <br />SIRACUSA: Okay, I thought that was it, but I wasn’t sure. Suppose the appellant wins <br />the appeal, is their filing fee also reimbursed to them? <br />YUEN: No. <br />SIRACUSA: So even if they were right in the first place, and the Planning Department <br />was wrong in issuing them the cease and desist and the violation notice, they still have to eat that <br />fee. <br />YUEN: Yes. <br />WATANABE: That is -. <br />SIRACUSA: That doesn’t seem fair. <br />WATANABE: That is -. May I comment? That is not uncommon within our system; if I <br />were to sue you and it was a frivolous suit and you had to defend yourself and hire an attorney, <br />and I basically didn’t have any money, you couldn’t get it back from me, either. So it sometimes <br />costs you money to prove that you were right or innocent. <br />DOMINGO: Or wrong. <br />WATANABE: Yeah. <br />EXHIBIT C <br />4 <br /> <br />