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GRAHAM:Okay. Do we have any questions? Commissioner Siracusa? <br />SIRACUSA:Yes. Some of the stuff that I scribbled over the margins here on <br />my paperwork had to do with what I felt also as you do that we should be looking at more <br />than just transportation and water. And yet I couldn€t say I wouldn€t want to put down <br />that every area that we€re looking at has to have a park or a school because different areas <br />have different needs. And do you feel that there should be some flexibility built in to add <br />on the possibility of other infrastructure requirements based on individual situations, or <br />do you feel that that would be too vague? <br />TAVARES:It sounds kind of vague. I believe in flexibility. But I think what <br />we have to do first is maybe define the boundaries of a community, and maybe put <br />together community councils or something where, you know, you€ll get good feedback <br />fromthepeoplethatarethereandwhattheyneed.Youknow,forexample,inmyarea,I <br />call Volcano, the Mt. View, my area, upper Puna. It€s a big place, you know. Fern <br />Forest is 8,500 acres but my neighbors are in the subdivisions all around me, too. So, <br />there€s Cooper Center, and that works for Volcano and it works for the subdivisions <br />across the street from Volcano. And then there€s nothing until you get to, Mt. View has a <br />school and a library, but then there€s nothing for communities. The communities are all <br />on their own, all on our own. Our community has a 3-acre lot that they had to sue the <br />developers to get and we haven€t really been able to develop it because we€re not a rich <br />community. So we have a place where the community can gather, but, you know, staying <br />dry might be the question. But other communities, yeah, I think every community kind <br />of has an idea of what they need, what would help their communities better. I don€t <br />know if that answers your question. <br />SIRACUSA:Well, sort of. I was thinking, of course we all always think of our <br />own situations that we know best, so naturally I was thinking of mine. And in my <br />community, we don€t have utility poles, so we don€t have telephone service. And we€re <br />in a dead spot so cell phone service is very spotty and unreliable. And that€s one of the <br />types of infrastructure that I feel in my community we would really need because that€s a <br />matter of public safety. If you can€t call the ambulance, you know, or you can€t call for <br />the fire truck it doesn€t matter if the road is adequate, which it isn€t, for fire trucks to <br />come in if you can€t call them in the first place. And so my feeling for my community is <br />we would, you know, besides water which we have plenty of, 200 inches, and besides <br />transportation needs, we would certainly in my community feel that the ability to have <br />some kind of telecommunications contact with the outside world would be one of the <br />necessary infrastructure things that we would think should be in place before more <br />density happens. And so I was just wondering if you had thoughts along those lines. <br />TAVARES:I do indeed. Well, for example, in Fern Forest I guess we pay for <br />our own telephone lines to this, an SSPP Program. I don€t know what that stands for and <br />I wasn€t involved in starting it up. But the people in the neighborhood who live there, I <br />guess when it was first developed, some of them wanted telephone services, so they went <br />to the electric company and got this plan. But what happens is every person who wants <br />14EXHIBIT D <br /> <br />