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was granted in August 2005 and the equipment just sits there for months and months after that. <br />Now Mr. Miranda has an equipment moving business. We want him to move the equipment out <br />of site. We also do not want to have a debate over thats not my bulldozer, thats somebody <br />elses bulldozer. You know, it takes time to, when we see a bulldozer up there and we have a <br />special permit that says youre supposed to have all the equipment stored in a one acre area that <br />is supposed to be set out by metes and bounds in this low area of the property, my inspector, you <br />know, were going to keep on this. And hes going to issue a citation if you have equipment; and <br />we dont want to have this thing come back from Mr. Miranda, oh, that wasnt one of my <br />bulldozers, that was somebody elses bulldozer. He can move the stuff to the low point of the <br />property. <br />Im a little bit concerned about what I hear though, one more thing I hear. Okay? Because he <br />had a permit that was limited to six semi-trailers, like he has this, he presented a small hauling <br />operation that was in business to help the agricultural interests in the area. Now he has, and there <br />isaspecificconditionaboutnotbeingasubcontractor,likeageneralcontractorsbaseyard <br />where lots of other people store their equipment on his property. Okay? Now I hear a 30,000 <br />square foot building? What is that for? Thats almost an acre under roof. Thats a huge <br />building. Whats that for? <br />RODRIGUES:I could be mistaken as to the size, I know its a large building. Let me <br />look at the notes, because thats where it is. Its in Exhibit A, its on the notes of the size of that <br />building. I will address each of your concerns. Lets see, proposed, Im sorry 100 by 90. I was <br />wrong. I kept saying 300 by 100; 100 by 90, thats what hes talking about. So its a smaller <br />shop. But its still large. When you see it on the ground, it looks huge to me, when I looked at <br />the slab. All right. Did you have anything more before I respond to your question? <br />YUEN:No. <br />RODRIGUES:Okay. My primary job is a defense attorney in criminal cases. This is a <br />good one for me. But I can say this, as a property owner Mr. Miranda has got to be responsible <br />for the whole property, not just one acre but all of it. And it was clear that in August €05 hearing <br />it was a close call as to whether he would get a special permit; and I think that the Commission <br />did not exactly bend over backwards. But they gave him the benefit of the doubt to go ahead <br />based on community input and a lot of other things. I think also that there can be little doubt that <br />there have been violations of the good faith that was entrusted to the project. Some have been <br />caught by community members, some of them noticed by government officials. Theyre done. I <br />have to leave the explanation to Mr. Miranda. But I will say this, Im intimately familiar with <br />that property. Some of the business decisions that went into asking for that permit, the <br />Commission has the background, the Parker Ranch thing, the West Hawaii thing, the no where <br />else to go thing. That property has proven to be extremely difficult to work in. You heard the <br />testimony from Mr. Tulang about the geographical conditions there, the geological conditions <br />there. Its no wonder that nobody wants it because its really tough. So on behalf of my client I <br />would say everything is going to take three times as long, three times as much, that does not <br />necessarily excuse parking outside the one acre. Park it somewhere else. Perhaps Mr. Miranda <br />understands that, I dont know; and I cant speak for him. But he did want to be here today, he <br />did want to answer that question in more detail. It is a valid question. No one can challenge <br />that, Mr. Yuen. <br />9EXHIBIT C <br /> <br />