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that leads directly into the site. The Planning Department is also recommending that any of those newly created lots be serviced by a private agricultural standard road. Depending on the number of lots that a road would be serviced it would have to be agricultural standard pavement, you know, which would either be oil treated or something along that line; and the width would vary. Their obligation is only to address the road system within their project area, they do have like a paved access, you know, through that Huapala extension to their property. So over and beyond that, they would have no obligation. ItÓs my understanding that the roadway system within the project area would be like the water system, would be owned and operated commonly by all of the property owners, would be formed like a co-op. LESTER:So whoever purchases the land would be responsible for maintaining their own road systems? A. HESTER:Yes, thatÓs true, because it will be -. You know, with regard to the well, you know, everyone is going to be using that facility and as a result they all have to be a part of it, Òcause thereÓs repairs and maintenance that have to be taken care of. And, likewise, with the road system, theyÓre going to be using the roads and, you know, theyÓre all going to be, you know, property lines will all be deeded, which will include part of the road. So itÓs going to be a community effort, yes. LESTER:Well, youÓve got a tough job set for you there then, cause I know from personal experience and a few other people here do know how hard it is to maintain roads and the water system. So, good luck to you on that. IÓm, my hair kind of stands on a little bit when I hear Chris say that this is somewhat of an experiment. IÓm wondering, I hear ten acres but, y know, IÓm a firm believer in Ag-20, so IÓm not against you guys or anything. IÓm just, IÓm a firm believer in Ag-20 and IÓd like to keep it that way. And I know progress is coming to our little place here. But I just think we, sometimes we need to sit back and kind of take a, slow down a little bit and take a closer look at what weÓre trying to do. I know that Peter Savio came in here, and he was up in Wood Valley and he was trying to do the same thing, affordable land prices for people. And as more of the community, the community became aware of it, it just didnÓt go, it didnÓt go. So, good luck. FUJIKAWA:Commissioners, any questions with the testifier or the applicant and its representative? Is there anyone else in the general public who would like to testify on this matter? If not, you would plan to testify? JUDALENA:Yes. FUJIKAWA:Would you come up forward, please. Can you use the mike. You want to have a seat and raise your right hand. Do you swear to tell the truth on this matter now before the Hawaii Planning Commission? JUDALENA:Yes. My name is Rudy Judalena. I live in Pahala. 12