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VITOUSEK: Not, not you <br /> KANUHA: Heather. <br /> VITOUSEK: Councilmember Kimball. <br /> KIMBALL: Hi, sorry, I heard you mention rental cars, and that's about it, I didn't hear the exact <br /> question, I apologize. But I, you know, without hearing the question, and you can repeat it— <br /> DEFRANCO: <br /> tDEFRANCO: How many <br /> KIMBALL: but the rental car market is actually a huge part of this as well, because those are <br /> folks that are coming here, they don't have a place to charge, they don't, they can't charge at <br /> home, so having the opportunity to charge at public accommodations is going to be really <br /> important as well. <br /> DEFRANCO: Right now how many, can you rent an electric vehicle now? <br /> KIMBALL: You can, but there are certainly not very many, and the charging capacity issue is <br /> largely part of that problem. <br /> DEFRANCO: So they are going to play a role in providing rental vehicles. Do they play a role <br /> in participating in how this is funded or incentives or? <br /> VITOUSEK: Probably insomuch as that they would be under the same requirements of the <br /> parking component, so if they have a parking stall, which they would have at their area, they <br /> would have to have a certain number of stalls as per the proposed rule. I think an area where it <br /> would be kind of a next step beyond the language of this, would be making a goal towards <br /> requiring the rental fleet to be electric by a certain date, which would, you know, as we all saw <br /> during COVID, a lot of the vehicles on our roads are rental cars, and that will be sending a pretty <br /> good message to people who are arriving in Hawaii that this is an environmentally friendly <br /> State, and then be able to take the experience they've had with electric vehicles here and go back <br /> to where they are and have that be something that normalizes electric vehicles for them. But that <br /> would be beyond the scope of this, but as a future goal, I think it's a fantastic suggestion. <br /> KERN: Mr. Chair, if I may <br /> KIMBALL: Agreed, and I know that there have been a couple of proposals before the <br /> legislature in recent years to require at least a portion of a new rental vehicle fleet be converted. <br /> We will see at the State level there has been a requirement that State vehicles, that their new <br /> acquisition of vehicles be converted to electric vehicles, and you may see something similar with <br /> respect to the county fleet as well. <br /> VITOUSEK: Thank you. Director Kern. <br /> 15 <br /> EXHIBIT B <br />