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that particular case, you had people come down, did some reporting about archaeological <br />sites, you know, graves and stuff. You had the archaeologists go and do a field <br />inventory, then they create maps, they create the maps. But they were having problem <br />throughout the case of identifying what or where the site is on the ground versus what <br />was plotted on the map. <br />Well, you look at this, on top that, if I'm not mistaken, that particular property right there <br />where the old ranch house was, that used to be one school, also used to be one church. <br />But before that it used to be one heiau, okay. The house there on top one heiau. And <br />because missionaries, you know, they figure God protect them over the Hawaiian graves, <br />no problem. But that's what you guys are looking at today, right there. So maybe there is <br />no significance to this testimony, but anyway -. Yeah, they going kill us in the traffic or <br />you going kill us out of existence in our identities as Hawaiian <br />The other one is the electricity. Down south, we get brown-outs, black-outs. How many <br />you guys get the kind computer? How many you guys experience, you gotta turn in your <br />machine because Helco not going pay anymore, buy new one. <br />Well, you know, we start building more and building more, and no <br />more water, phew, mean action. I donÓt know if you guys go down <br />Hookena Beach, you turn on the water. The water go like this, palata ta ta,ta, ta, pata, ta, <br />ta. Holy smokes, what the heck going on? No more water pasture <br />mean, spooky like that. All of this build-out coming up and we <br />adequate resources. Not to mention the pollution, non-point source. Well, thatÓs a point <br />source, yeah? ItÓs non-natural, yeah, itÓs made by man. So thatÓs a point source <br />pollutant. <br />So, anyway, drainage, mean action there. Over there the drainage, mean. Amazing they <br />when decide to put the Konawaena Elementary School right down in that puka. I donÓt <br />know, the civil engineers, you guys smart. I donÓt know, you going see what happens <br />when we get one mean flood coming in that area. And if we do start to build over there, <br />mean action with the traffic too, flood culmination. ThatÓs it for me, Ms. Chair. Thank <br />you very much. <br />SPRINGER:YouÓre welcome. Members, any questions for Mr. Hauanio? I <br />have one. Mr. Hauanio, do you have a name for that heiau? <br />HAUANIO:Yes. <br />SPRINGER:Are you able to divulge it at this time? <br />HAUANIO:No. <br />SPRINGER:Thank you. Mr. Matsukawa, followed by Mr. Nazara. <br />MATSUKAWA:Good morning. <br />20 <br /> <br />