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everything and approve the subdivision, because you dont have anything. You have to have a <br />subdivision laid out in order to have a meaningful subdivision approval. So you cant, and if you <br />approve a layout as far as a tentative subdivision with 55 lots, you cant do a final subdivision <br />with 69 lots, to just give you an example. You have to, the final subdivision has to conform to <br />the tentative subdivision. So the idea that youre going to get a completely, that youre going to <br />get an enormous change between the preliminary application, the tentative, and the final is just <br />not in the process. So, I mean, Im happy to go through any specific issues that people may have <br />with the changes that are being asked for here. But I would like if its possible for the <br />Commission to act on this. <br />SIRACUSA:Id like to respond. <br />ALAMEDA:Commissioner Siracusa? <br />SIRACUSA:Yeah,IdliketorespondthattherehavebeentimessinceIvebeenonthe <br />Commission when I saw applications come before us to subdivide and they didnt give us all the <br />information, there were whole areas that we were not told what was happening. And I felt, and <br />stated that I felt at the time that I felt very uncomfortable with approving those things not <br />knowing what the total picture was. And -. <br />YUEN:Youve never seen an application for a -. Let me think about that. <br />SIRACUSA:Yeah, there was -. <br />YUEN:I believe youve never seen an application for a subdivision. You will, the <br />subdivisions never come to the Commission. The only reason I halted for that, before I said that, <br />was that if you have an SMA permit, you may have a subdivision that needs an SMA permit <br />SIRACUSA:No, there was one that was up mauka. <br />YUEN:But youll never see a subdivision. <br />SIRACUSA:There was one that was more up mauka in Hilo and there was a stream or <br />the Alenaio Project running along one side, one whole area we were told, we werent being told <br />what was, nothing was planned yet, yet. <br />YUEN:You may have seen, you see applications for rezonings that will lead to <br />subdivisions. But the subdivision is a discrete stage of approval. A subdivision, there was a <br />statement about the Planning Commission or the Council being circumvented. By ordinance the <br />subdivision is an administrative process. Under the rules of the County the subdivision itself <br />never comes to the Planning Commission. If it needs an SMA Permit, it may come to, this SMA <br />Permit to permit the subdivision will come to the Planning Commission. The subdivision itself <br />will never come to the Planning Commission, so youve never seen one. <br />SIRACUSA:Youre right, its a rezoning thats prior to the subdivision. But then, you <br />know, like some of the issues that Mr. Frankel raised, for example, just recently we had the <br />family guy who wanted to subdivide for his family who, hes the only one living here right now <br />and when they retire maybe, would sell off three lots to raise -. We had a whole discussion about <br />10EXHIBIT D <br /> <br />