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engineer; he said, We have no obligation for accessibility.‚ I€d like to inform you that the <br />Americans with Disabilities Act, the ADA, became law in 1990. That€s 17 years ago. The <br />requirements and regulations that apply to the County are over 15 years old. You are obligated <br />to build accessibles according to the ADA standards. The idea of the ADA was that we may not <br />be able to fix all past building, but the building environment will be accessible from now on. <br />Now an hour ago I heard the County tell me accessibility is not an issue with them. I€m <br />outraged. Quite frankly, suing the County isn€t good enough. You are all 17 years older, and I <br />assure you as you get older, access will impact every single one of you. If we are still not feeling <br />that we have no obligation to build accessible environment, I€m outraged that you are not feeling <br />that you need to follow the law. As far as I€m concerned, if the lower level engineer is saying, <br />oh, just putting steps, it reflects the higher-ups and the mayor, the administration, and all leaders <br />of the Planning Department. If that€s their attitude, at best they should all be fired immediately. <br />ALAMEDA:Thank you, Ms. Golden. Thank you for your testimony. And thank all of <br />youforcomingtoday.Andallofthecommentsthatweremade,everyCommissionerhasan <br />opportunity to revisit the testimony when we have discussion. So even if we are not kind of <br />hashing it out or talking about it now, we are all making notes or mental notes of the testimony, <br />and I€m sure it will come up in our discussion when we deliberate. So thank you so much for <br />your testimony again. We don€t have any other testifiers, but it is 12:30. So I would like to, if <br />there is no further objection from my fellow Commissioner, I would like to break for lunch, and <br />reconvene at -. One thirty? How€s 1:30? An hour? One forty-five? Okay, we€ll reconvene at <br />1:45. Thank you very much. <br />RECESSEDThe Chair called a recess at 12:25 p.m. <br />RECONVENEDThe meeting reconvened at 1:43 p.m. <br />ALAMEDA:The Hawaii Planning Commission will now return in order. Thank <br />you for waiting. And now that we are re-energized, we can move forward with this agenda item. <br />I€d like to call up the applicant or his representative. Please come forward. Please raise your <br />right hands. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth now before the Hawaii County Planning <br />Commission? <br />APPLICANT PARTY:I do. <br />ALAMEDA:Thank you. Could you please state your names and addresses for <br />therecord? <br />LIM:Thankyou,Mr.Chair.MynameisStevenLimfromCarlsmithat <br />686 Waianuenue Avenue in Hilo. With me to my right is Mr. Curtis DeWeese who is the <br />principalforSunStone.TomyleftisMr.GregoryMooerswhoisourplanningconsultant,a <br />chief planner. Also with us today is Ms. Sanoe Kauhane who is one of my law clerks, who€s out <br />oftheUniversityofHawaiiandspendingsometimewithusthissummertotrytoseewhatthis <br />area of law is all about. We€ve also got Dr. Ron Terry back there who did our visual analysis, <br />andDavidBillswhoisourprojectengineer.Priortodecidingonit,youknow,thishasbeena <br />long process for us; we are nearly two years into the process on this SMA permit. But ƒ and we <br />will start out our SMA presentation shortly with Mr. Mooers kicking it off ƒ but I think for <br />15EXHIBIT C <br /> <br />