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they€re completely separated. They€re both on the same piece of property. They€re both- I think <br />that they would do very well to get together and discuss this. Perhaps the intervenors and the 2 <br />applicants can sit down and discuss this a little more. I think they can probably come to some <br />sort of agreement on this and perhaps a contested case may not need to be necessary. But I think <br />they need to, you know, I don€t think trying to railroad this through the Commission is going to, <br />I mean that€s that feeling I get, is that to some extent that these guys just want this to rush <br />through like we€re in, you know -. I get the feeling that they€re trying to put the, I don€t know, <br />just dump it on us that we€re holding back this progress, and I think that, you know, we need to -. <br />I think that it would be good to have a hearings officer hear this. Let things get cleaned up and <br />cleared up; and then we can see what€s happening; and then make our decision. <br />GALDONES:Thank you, Mr.- Commissioner McCall. Commissioner Graham. <br />GRAHAM:I had a question. Mr. Vitousek, in light of what Commissioner McCall is <br />sayingandall-IrememberontheearlierapplicationwhenMr.Fukehadmentionedthatthere <br />th <br />had been a double community meeting on the 7 <br /> of March which to me if that€s the first official <br />th <br />community meeting on that application andit€s now only the 18 of March, obviously the <br />application and the Director€s work have already been in place before the community meeting. <br />So I felt kind of rushed to me already. I€m wondering on this application, have you folks had <br />community meetings over a longer period of time that have, you know, worked their way into the <br />particular application you€ve put forth already? <br />VITOUSEK:Yeah, may I, I just got involved in this when the contested case hearing <br />was requested. So may I ask Carl Sturges to respond to your question? <br />GRAHAM:Please do. <br />STURGES:Yes, we actually began hearings with the neighbors in the Fall, I believe <br />the first one was in October. We held the second hearing in- meeting with neighbors in January, <br />and we invited everybody around the block to come to both of those, and we had quite a large <br />turnoutforbothofthose-bothofthosemeetings.I€vealsobeento2TrafficCommission <br />hearings, 1 in December and 1 in January, to discuss the traffic issues related to this project, in <br />additiontothat. <br />GRAHAM:Thank you. <br />GALDONES:Further discussion. <br />SPRINGER:Question. <br />GALDONES:Commissioner Springer. <br />SPRINGER:Regardless of the ownership, can the 2 applications be heard together <br />whether outsourced or held by the- heard by the Planning Commission? May they be <br />consolidated or do they need to be held separately? <br />10 <br /> <br />