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lines just makai of that; that’s roughly 20 to 25 percent grade. There are a lot of steep areas on the property. So how are they going to handle all of the earth moving, all of the house pad construction, the subdivision roads and the like on this site? We have no subdivision map that shows us that. We have nothing to go from, that shows us any of that. So – and let me give a comparison – and so my view of -, certainly I think that we should change the zoning to a 5-acre minimum lot size. There have been advocacies of 20 acres. There was a motion at the Council to make it 15 acres. My view is that we should make it 5 acres, which is the same as, looking at this map, the property immediately along the shoreline on the Kawaihae side, and the same as on the property on the Mahukona side. We should revoke the SMA permit; they would then come back for an SMA permit for 7-lot development. And at that time my view is that the Department and the Planning Commission should take a careful look at that. What we did is in the property immediately adjacent, which we did pass an SMA permit based on a 5-acre lot residential development, we had height limits on the houses, we had enhanced yard setbacks to create more open space. And that’s the course we should take. So with that, I’ll be happy to take any questions. But my recommendation to the Planning Commission is that they vote to reject the time extension on the RS-15 zoning, and reject the time extension on the SMA permit, and revoke the current SMA permit. RHO: Questions from the Commissioners? DOMINGO: Mr. Chairman -. RHO: Mr. Watanabe. WATANABE: Mr. Director, even if – and in many ways I don’t necessarily disagree with you, okay – even if, though, we were to revoke this and we were to revert back to a 5-acre parcel, the State would still allow you only one access point. Am I correct on that? YUEN: Correct. WATANABE: A follow-up to that. So that means that in spite of the topography, which I agree probably is quite challenging, you’re still going to have internal infrastructure that has to traverse all these gulches and, you know, wind around the hills and etc. And given that, you know, your smallest plot would be 5 acres, is it possible that that might make it even more difficult to develop this property? YUEN: Well, it depends on how it’s laid out. It depends on where you want to put property. Now, in a 5-acre zoning, you’ll have seven that you are going to put someplace. And there is an administrative mechanism where that seven would not have to be on equal 5-acre pieces. There is a PUD mechanism. So administratively the Director could -, you know, if they had a plan that puts more in one area, the Director can administratively allow that. WATANABE: Okay, so we would -. RHO: Follow-up, Mr. Watanabe? EXHIBIT A 26