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that testimony where we walk through what is where and what is, and what, you know, in terms <br />of what the spatial relationships are between the different parts of it because we want to, you <br />know, we would like to move the hearing forward. <br />GIFFIN:Thank you. Lester? <br />ISHADO:I think we'll just leave that up to the panel. We can understand the <br />feelings of the parties and I think whichever, whatever expedites. I understand that the parcel is <br />level ground, so we'll be able, you know, everybody should be able to get out and walk around <br />anyway. So, you know, basically, weÓll leave it up to the panel. <br />GIFFIN:Thank you. Commissioners, I need your guidance. Mr. Togashi. <br />TOGASHI:I guess given the consensus of the three of the four parties today, I guess <br />that we should opt to go sometime today. And I do agree with Mr. Vitousek, perhaps we should <br />hear public testimony; and after it's heard, then that would be an appropriate time today. <br />SPRINGER:Madam Chair? <br />GIFFIN:Hannah. <br />SPRINGER:Will the site visit be limited to the one-plus acres of the subject parcel, or <br />will we be looking onto sites in the adjoining properties that may have bearing with regard to <br />view sheds or other cultural activities? <br />GIFFIN:Hang on. Mr. Torigoe. <br />TORIGOE:Thank you, Madam Chair. If the Commission or the panel would like to <br />look at some adjacent areas, if you can do so without trespassing and it's practical to do so, you <br />know, and if it's relevant, you can do that. <br />GIFFIN:Mr. Vitousek. <br />VITOUSEK:Yeah, you know, I would support seeing whatever the panel and the <br />parties think is appropriate in a site visit. We really do. I mean if it means going on other sites <br />and looking back at the property, if it means, you know, this, you know -. It's impossible to try <br />to make the decis -, I personally think it's impossible to try to make the decisions the <br />Commission has to make without having really had a sense that it has seen the area. <br />SPRINGER:Madam Chair? <br />GIFFIN:Commissioner Springer. <br />SPRINGER:Having heard comments then from both Deputy Corporation Counsel and <br />Mr. Vitousek, how would we, I'm looking it as procedure, how would we determine, at what <br />point would we determine if we wanted to go onto adjacent properties, if we're able to? Could <br />6 <br /> <br />