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you know, a few selected viewpoints that they would suggest the Commission look at; and then <br />we can discuss with Staff if it would be practical to do that. <br />GIFFIN:And I think the key word with what Mr. Torigoe just said is viewpoints. <br />And as I said at the pre-hearing conference, I really do not want this to be a lesson on, you know, <br />the cultural value of the sites. I would like to see the effect of this application on the surrounding <br />property. Mikahala. <br />ROY:Madam Chair, no disrespect intended, but for the record, I've been asked <br />to speak and say that that predisposes that you believe that everyone is culturally aware at the <br />same level. And that is just, I just need to state that that, for this site, is not the case. <br />GIFFIN:I see what you're saying. And, Mr. Torigoe, correct me if I'm wrong. I <br />think that we are of the same level from the material that has been presented to us. <br />TORIGOE:Yeah, I think, thank you. I think what would be helpful is if, as I said, if <br />you could identify a few key viewpoints and maybe make note of what those viewpoints are as <br />we go through them. So that when you are going through your presentation, you are able to refer <br />back to those and inform the panel as to what the real significance of those are, when you are in <br />your case, you know, in making your case. That would probably be the best way to make the <br />record on that. <br />GIFFIN:Any other comments, parties? None? Officers, do I hear <br />regarding the site visit and when? Commissioner Springer. <br />SPRINGER:Madam Chair, I move that this panel of Hearings Officers conduct a site <br />visit to the Keakealaniwahine or to the subject property following public testimony on the <br />matter. <br />TOGASHI:Second. <br />GIFFIN:It has been moved and seconded that we have a site visit of the subject <br />property after public testimony today. Mr. Torigoe, in this motion, should we say that if the need <br />presents itself that we also have other site visits? <br />TORIGOE:You donÓt need to say that at this point. <br />GIFFIN:Okay. All those in favor? <br />HEARINGS <br />OFFICERS:Aye. <br />GIFFIN:All those opposed? Thank you. So, by decision, we will be doing a site <br />visit this morning after public testimony. Mr. Torigoe has just suggested to me that we <br />determine the site points now. <br />8 <br /> <br />