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BLECK:Yes, IÓm digging. <br />ROY:How much? <br />BLECK:ThatÓs a tough -. <br />ROY:And where? <br />BLECK:WeÓre going to excavate down to allow for these two-story units <br />down in front. <br />ROY:And how far down? <br />BLECK:The extreme, itÓs ten feet in the back of those buildings. If I could <br />illustrate a little better, thereÓs, weÓre going to, thereÓs the existing bowl effect where in <br />order to put these buildings, weÓre going to have to excavate in this area to create a level <br />spot -. <br />ROY:So were you with the -? <br />VITOUSEK:Referring to the site plan. <br />ROY:Thank you. Were you with us on the site visit yesterday or <br />other day? <br />BLECK:No, I was not. <br />ROY:As the property archaeology study shows thereÓs on the mauka of <br />a, solid pahoehoe in this area. Could you describe the efforts that would be taken to <br />accomplish that goal? <br />BLECK:Well, itÓs an unknown when you excavate underground. If t <br />can put a hook in it, you know, behind the D-10, then thatÓll be preferable to using a hoe <br />ram. But either one of those options. <br />ROY:I imagine that if you hit blue rock, for example, would it be within <br />your plans to use very disruptive dynamite, for example? <br />BLECK:I donÓt think dynamite would be used. <br />ROY:What would be? <br />BLECK:A hoe ram. <br />ROY:Could you describe the process of what a hoe ram does? <br />18 <br /> <br />