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time, here and there; and that€s what we€ve been doing. Here of late, though, for some <br />time we€ve been meeting at my house, just because there was no, no other place to go. <br />I€m looking forward to the time when we could put up a building, Volcano would have <br />its own church and which, I think, is an asset to any community. It can be used in times, <br />besides services, besides bible studies, for weddings and so forth, and times of <br />catastrophes like storms, or, you know, earthquakes, or whatever. If our building is still <br />standing, then it€s available to, for temporary housing. So when you get a church, you <br />get more than a church. <br />For 5-1/2 years I served as a police chaplain, served Puna and KaŸu; and if I didn€t, you <br />know, if I hadn€t been there and pretty well established myself, I wouldn€t have been able <br />to do that, because it€s a voluntary job. And, so, there€s, like I say, there€s more than just <br />putting up a building for a few people to meet in. <br />SPRINGER:Thankyou,sir.Doesthatansweryourquestion? <br />MCCALL:Justafollow-up.Sowhereyou€remeetingmostofthetimesis <br />now at your house on Kilinoe. So you€re really only talking about moving about a block <br />away from where you€re looking to re-locate the church? <br />MATHISON:Well, yeah, Kilinoe Street is only about a block or two from where <br />the property that we bought. <br />MCCALL:Yeah, so as far as the residents are concerned, you€re really not, I <br />mean, it€s basically, it€s in the same general vicinity? <br />MATHISON:Yeah. And we€ve got an excellent record. We have never had a <br />complaint from anyone in the time that we€ve been there. I went to both, closest <br />neighbors before we purchased the property on either side of Wright Road, and we had <br />their blessing. One of those properties has since sold to a different owner now, but <br />there€s no opposition there; and the other parties still own the same land. So we€ve done <br />everything we know to do. <br />MCCALL:Thank you very much. <br />SPRINGER:Thank you, both. Are there any further questions for the <br />Applicants before we call the public testifiers to the table? Seeing none, if you folks <br />could just sit back to the folding chairs behind of you, I€d like to call the public testifiers <br />who have signed up. Peter Serafin, Michael McKenney and Betsy Mitchell to come <br />forward. And I think I saw more than three hands come up during the swearing-in <br />portion, and we have seats for two more individuals. If the three whom I called could <br />come forward. Are there any other members of the public who were sworn in, who <br />would care to give testimony at this time? <br />Did all the folks who raised their hands to be sworn in intend to testify? If so, there€s <br />room for one more here now. Otherwise, we€ll just go with these four folks. Beginning <br />7 <br /> <br />