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would agree with his characterization that if he’s going to have three or four, Brother Smitty is <br />going to play at a team roping, we don’t have a problem with that. It’s the reggae concert, it’s <br />the “Beach Boys,” that kind of stuff that we don’t want to see here. <br />GONZALEZ: Well, is a concert a performance by an artist as a fund-raiser to benefit someone? <br />HIGGINS: Good point. It, let me put it this way. If you were inclined, the Commissioners were <br />inclined to accept the limitations that are on what local charities are that are in our Condition <br />No. 6, the underlined language which confines it to a) 501(c)(3) organizations, b) Hawaii <br />nonprofits, or c) individuals or families in crisis or experiencing medical or financial hardships <br />and identified as such by a Hawaii charity exempt under 501(c)(3), if you were to accept that, <br />and we’re talking about a reasonable number of special events per year (and we’ve proposed <br />four, they proposed 20, there was some willingness to discuss a smaller number on their part <br />during our meetings, if it were a number that were closer to the lower end of that) and an <br />occasional concert genuinely to benefit a nonprofit agency, we have some aloha for that concept <br />and we would go with that. <br />GONZALEZ: Well, see, so that’s my point, is you are creating an end around against no <br />concerts. But when I asked that question if a concert includes some kind of musical performance <br />mixed in with a benefit fund-raiser, Mr. Mooers shook his head, no. Am I correct, Mr. Mooers? <br />That’s not what you envision concert to include, right? <br />MOOERS: Correct. Yeah, concert to my thinking is where that is “the” event,” that the <br />musical -. <br />HAYASHI: Will you use the microphone, please. <br />GONZALEZ: Yes. <br />MOOERS: I believe my statement was that if the concert was “the event,” if the music was “the <br />event”, as opposed to people playing after a dinner or playing in conjunction with a roping, I <br />would not consider that or characterize that as a concert. <br />WOODWARD: Thank you. Ms. Frederick, were you going to make any statement? <br />FREDERICK: Forgive me for not being comfortable with public speaking. <br />WOODWARD: That’s fine. I was just asking the question. If you want to have Mr. Higgins be <br />the representative, that’s fine. <br />FREDERICK: Okay. I would just say that, you know, I’ve just, so you know a little bit about <br />me -. I mean, I’ve just been in the area for five years. I came from Oahu to get away from all <br />the crowds over there and to be in the country over here. I really love the Hamakua area. And I <br />feel that there has been some deception, perhaps not total disclosure of events that are being held <br />or that would like to be held at the arena. I do feel, speaking on my own, that as Mr. Higgins <br />said I love the idea of a country market. I live right there, it’s very convenient for me. But when <br />I was there recently for one of the markets I saw a box from Lowe’s, you know, like a light or <br />lamp from Lowe’s with the bar code still on it, still in the box. And that as Mr. Higgins said is, <br />you know, it really bothers me. I think that is not appropriate for this area. I do see that as not in <br />keeping with the wording on the permit request for things to benefit local farmers, ranchers; and <br />I also support local crafts people. But DVDs, cosmetics, books, you know, clothing made <br />elsewhere, I don’t believe that that is in keeping with the area. And I also have the concerns <br />about the overall vagueness of the wording of the request. You know, how do you define what is <br />special and occasional? And, also, I believe, I obviously don’t have the wording of the 6.6, 6-6 <br />11 <br /> EXHIBIT D <br /> <br />