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the members of the church. And as far as the 70 and 46 numbers of the church, its because each year or each semester the students that come from Samoa dont have families, so the church is a place where they have support. And when the students come, we have 30 or 20. So, therefore, the numbers are very flexible. So it depends on the semester. Thats what it is, to explain that. Thank you very much. ALAMEDA:Okay, thank you, Tui. All right, now you may be seated. Okay, Fellow Commissioners, we are at the point where we can take testimony, or at least some of it prior to lunch. There are 14 individuals that signed up. However, it may be that not all 14 would want to share or provide testimony today given that this would, there will be different opportunities to provide testimony. So Im leaning towards starting off with some of testifiers, maybe go to 12, and take lunch then, and then come back. But I dont know, whats your taking on this? Commissioner Iwashita? IWASHITA:MayIsuggesttheChairmaybepollthosewhosignedup,seewhowants to testify and who doesnt, and -? ALAMEDA:Okay. Thats new, we could try that. Let me see -. Commissioner Graham? GRAHAM:Well, maybe just go forward and well see where were at as the clock goes. ALAMEDA:Oh, just go forward and see where we are. Okay, well, lets do that then. Let me ask, Ole Fulks? FULKS:Yes. ALAMEDA:Please come forward. Joshua Grotkin. I mean, let me know if you would like to provide testimony now, or with the hearings officer, or when we gather once again for the third time. Its up to you. FULKS:Id like to give it today. ALAMEDA:Okay, you can come forward. You can come forward and have a seat. And also know that if you give it today it will be for the record, which we will have access to. So you may choose not to give it again. It will be kind of redundant in that respect. So how about Joshua Grotkin. Is there a Joshua? GROTKIN:Yes. ALAMEDA:Would you like to give it today or -? GROTKIN:No. ALAMEDA:Today? GROTKIN:No. 17EXHIBIT B