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Survey I know the geology of the area very well. Orchidland sits in what we usually call the <br />central subdivision corridor. But another name for that in geological terms is the Ailau Flow. <br />The Ailau Flow came down from Kilauea Iki at approximately 1300-1400 and it terminated at <br />Kaloli Point. So all our subdivisions are built on this flow. Now this is considered by most <br />people as marginal agricultural lands. But there are some things that we can do very well in <br />agriculture on those lands, as well as your old cane lands you may do even better, like for <br />instance cock farms, piggeries, orchid farms, dog kennels and apiaries. I€m also the president of <br />the Big Island Bee Keepers Association. <br />Now I want to ask you today to uphold the integrity of the agricultural zoning. And even though <br />we€re considered marginal Ag, like I say, we can do some things very well there; and the people <br />who bought lots there expect to be able to do agriculture. Mr. Upham is a member of our bee <br />club and he€s hoping to have an apiary there. Now these things could be a nuisance to a church <br />next door, all these things that I€ve named. But the church would be the one out of place because <br />churchesarenotagriculture.Andtheagriculture,yeah,it€sdefinitely,itcanbeanuisance.Hey, <br />future people who come there, all those lots aren€t developed yet, but they have the right to do <br />agriculture on those lots. So there could be future problems for the church later on from various <br />agricultural developments. So I€m concerned about you guys upholding the agricultural <br />designation of that area. <br />ALAMEDA:Any questions, Commissioner Siracusa, for Mr. Fulks? <br />SIRACUSA:Yes. Mr. Fulks, thank you for reminding us that you€re involved with the <br />Speleological Society, and you know where the caves are. And I know there€s lots of pukas all <br />over Puna. But could you tell us specifically to your knowledge are there any caves or tunnels in <br />the area of the subject property? <br />FULKS:I don€t know of any in that area although there€s what we call the D Road <br />System of approximately, lined up with D Road in Hawaiian Acres. I would have to check on <br />the map to see how that lines up. That is, and I don€t know, I haven€t explored anything below <br />thth <br />8 Road in that system, but I€m sure there are things below 8 Road. But I don€t specifically <br />know of anything in that area. <br />SIRACUSA:Thank you. <br />ALAMEDA:Commissioner Siracusa, continue? <br />SIRACUSA:Yes. I would hope that you would be able to do a little research on that so <br />that you could bring it to the contested case hearing in case there was anything relevant. I mean <br />if there€s nothing relevant then no need; but if there is the Commission always like to have as <br />muchinformationatourfingertips,becausethemoredatawehavethebetterchancesarethatwe <br />can make properly informed decisions. <br />FULKS:I certainly will do that. As far as I know at this time there€s nothing <br />relevantasfarspeleologicalconcerns. <br />SIRACUSA:Thankyou. <br />21EXHIBIT B <br /> <br />