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and see how we can do but that was my big concern is just fencing and <br />eradication. <br /> <br />KB: Yeah, we don’t really have a game management plan or anything – that’s been – <br />since our CMP was finalized in 2027 it’s been on my bucket list for five years to <br />reach out to the hunters – I tried to – thankfully, Abraham, came forward and we <br />have another local hunter and I’m hoping we can gather a few more that can help <br />us create policy for hunting and, um, you know the hunters also network as <br />volunteers to help get into the areas of forest that are more suitable for hunting. <br />Right now just to come in through our one road - to the middle road in Pahoa and <br />it’s not that great, I mean, I’m not a hunter but I understand that these are the <br />best hunting grounds for pigs. It’s better to go up – approach from the northern <br />part and, yeah, as long as we don’t have funding and we have a lava flow we’re <br />probably, we’re not in a position to fence our entire \[unclear\]. It wouldn’t be <br />practical. <br /> <br />BL: OK. Maybe on a couple days or something I can reach out to you – you’re in my <br />district so I would like to – if you’re OK with it – maybe we can meet in person <br />and discuss a lot of these things and I can get a better idea – like you said – this <br />was just a brief overlay – so I would like to get more information from you. <br /> <br />BK: Sure. Yeah, we can even have Abraham join too, if he would like, ‘cause I would <br />to have him – as my subject matter expert since he’s in my working group and I <br />just want to point out to you, Brian, that we have like cultural practitioners are <br />gathering and so part of fencing areas is also for like hula practitioners or <br />medicinal healers that want to grow plants that they know will be kept safe from <br />being eaten \[unclear\] are destroyed, but as you can see it’s still a minimum area <br />that we’d be getting fenced – nothing extreme. <br /> <br />BL: OK. I look forward to talking to you later. Thank you. <br /> <br />BK: Yeah, thanks for the question. <br /> <br />AA: Any other questions for Kalena? <br /> <br />NP: Ah, Nani Pogline here. I have a question. Um, when you, if you apply for grants <br />for a native forest designation - do you know – do most all the grants require <br />fencing? <br /> <br />KB: We \[unclear\] were approached by Fish & Wildlife Service because of some of the <br />unique, rare and endangered species we have. We didn’t even go looking for it - <br />it’s our first grant that we’ve gotten, I mean, short of our purchasing grant from <br />the Legacy Program and the grant is specifically to fence off this area that has <br />the rare plants and probably, hopefully, some rare and endangered nesting birds <br />and the bat. And it’s just a small 17-acre area that includes two skylights and the <br />pit crater so the answer to that question is we’ve only received one grant <br />9 <br /> <br /> <br />