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AGUINALDO: Verses it looks like a tree. <br /> MARTIN: Part of the problem too is this is a 180-foot tower— <br /> AGUINALDO: Right. <br /> MARTIN: —it's really um' not really a good idea to have a tree pole for a 180-foot tower. The <br /> branches are very heavy. Which means you would have to have a beefer tower and so typically <br /> you would see these tree poles maybe 100 feet instead of 180. So, that was kind of the reason <br /> why we originally proposed just painting the tree and that's my personal preference. It's just <br /> painting the tree and mix it up among some of the natural landscape. I think it's less of <br /> obtrusive. But that's just my personal view, I've been doing this for a very long time. <br /> AGUINALDO: And the Makakilo site, how tall is that? <br /> MARTIN: That's under a 100, I think. <br /> AGUINALDO: Under a 100. <br /> MARTIN: That was just an example what a tree looks like. <br /> AGUINALDO: Right. <br /> MARTIN: But you know the other trees the ones to the left. <br /> AGUINALDO: Yeah. <br /> MARTIN: Those look more like the Norfolk Pine where they've got more of a separation. <br /> AGUINALDO: Okay. I think I completed my questions. Thank you for your answer. <br /> MARTIN: You're welcome. <br /> CROSS: I have a question. <br /> LIN: Go ahead Commissioner Cross. <br /> CROSS: Howzit Danette, long time no see. <br /> MARTIN: Yes! <br /> CROSS: I'm very familiar with that monopole — <br /> MARTIN: Yes. <br /> 9 <br /> EXHIBIT A <br />