2021-12-16 Redistricting Commission Public Hearing minutes (Final 2 of 2)

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you could grab there, to make the numbers balance out. Because if we're already splitting it, let's just split it a little bit further. I know some people aren't going to be happy about that. I admire how much you're trying to do to please as many people as you can. But I know at some point the lines gotta shift somewhere. If you made that shift, and put more of HPP into Council 5, there's multiple different ways to cut that pie. But, keeping moving those folks up into Council District 5—Then you are able to make the other shifts that I am recommending. So, the other shifts that I'm recommending is—And I, again, I grew up in Kona. So, I grew up on Ahikawa Street. And to see Ahikawa Street, which is just north of Kona Palisades, being lumped into Council 9, that then goes all the way up to Haw!, Kapa`au area,just really doesn't make sense to me. So, I'm thinking maybe you could shift Council 9's boundary further north. Kuki`o, seems like that area could all be with Council 9. It would make a nicer picture on the map, as well as keep the deviation numbers where they need to be. It just makes more sense. And then you could shift the line between Council 8 and Council 7, could come further south to make up for that. And then shifting Council 7. There's like a weird finger happening there, that I'm seeing on my end too, towards Kealakekua Bay. You can eliminate that finger and go further down and take some of Council 6 into Council 7. So, I think if you start making those shifts, if you look at it—Again, once you shift everything, you have to shift everything. But I think that those lines will make more people happy after hearing all the testimony that I heard on Tuesday. So, I'm hoping you're willing to put more work in it. I know you guys have already done a lot. But I feel like it's so important not to rush this. It's important to get it right. We're all going to have to live with this for the next decade. So, as much work as you've already put in, and as much as I appreciate that, and I know a lot of us do that I think there's still some big problems that could be fixed by making some of these choices. That's basically my mana`o. I'm happy to discuss further. I know you can't ask questions now, but. Kailua Bay too, is being split into two districts which is just ocean. Doesn't matter. There's no bodies in there, but it just makes sense to me to keep the bodies of water in one district or the other as much as possible. Especially those areas like Kona Bay, Hilo Bay. Really seems like those should be in one person's jurisdiction. Just so one council member can be focusing on those areas, even though they don't have to make too many decisions around those areas. Did the buzzer go off and I just didn't hear it? I can't believe I'm still talking. Nobody's interrupted me yet. So, I have one more note. I don't know if I can fit that in. No, I think I covered most of it. Anyway, I appreciate all the work you're doing. And yeah, I would highly recommend you look at that. Taking more of HPP into Council 5. And then from there, I think you can make a lot of the other changes that were suggested by previous testifiers. Okay, and that's it. Mahalo nui. Have a good night. KOSSOW: Mahalo, Ms. Matson. We'll go over to Hilo. ARACELEY: Thank you, Chair. The next testifier you have in the Hilo Chamber is Alohalani Hope Cermelj. And I apologize to the folks in the building if I butcher your name. Please correct me. CERMELJ: Aloha kakou. District 5. Alohalani Hope Cermelj. Comes from Yugoslavia. I asked for these maps, the five that were supposed to be proposed, for us to look at. Never 5