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MONTGOMERY:(inaudible) GALDONES:However, I would like to have Mr. Yuen address Commissioner Iwashitas statement. YUEN:I will have to have, to be comfortable I would have to have some scale, some limit to the size of the operation other than a percentage of gross. The extreme end of Pandora s Box would be a tour bus every 10 minutes which could happen. And that would, if we had an operation on that scale, we would want to see a special permit. IWASHITA:Could not this kind of concerns be addressed in the conditions that youre allowed to impose when the permit is applied for? YUEN:The difficulty is that we dont want to impose conditions on an ad-hoc basis.Thatifwehavealevel,ifwehaveamaximumnumberofvisitorswewanttoapplythat to everybody and not have somebody come in and say, and us have to sit there in the office and say oh we think your operation should have a maximum of a hundred visitors a day but this other one can have 500 visitors a day. IWASHITA:I guess the kind of conditions that I was thinking about basically is on the suggestion made, would be on the type of vehicle thats allowed. In other words, there should be a standard no 3 axle buses, nothing more than 2 axle vehicles allowed and if you want to do anything more then you come for a special permit. That kind of relatively easy enforceable regulation seems to me more practical. YUEN:Well, there are places and there are people that can have tour bus. You could have good highway access, you could have a good place for a tour place to come and pull off and I dont see a reason to ban tour buses generally. We have a condition that does talk about safe access that we would look at the access but say, you have an orchid farm on the volcano highway and you have a big lot and you have a place for a tour bus to pull off and visitors to come out I dont see a problem with having a tour bus there. IWASHITA:I guess that Akatsuka Farms and those kind of op- they operate on special permit right? And if youre looking at, as a practical matter, I have had clients that theyre with this tourism industry and it seems to me that if youre going to operate on, its your intent to operate on a scale where youre going to have bus loads of 50 people at a time come into your operation on a regular basis and you have a deal with Jacks tours and all the other operators to, you know, for those people to come its not going to be a big deal for you to do a special permit to get that operation approved. I would think from the Countys perspective that thats the kind of operation that you want to have some oversight over more than what would be generally allowed under the intent of this Bill thats why I think that can be a limitation. If you want to have busloads of 50 people coming at a time from the tour, from the ships that come in or however, right the Japanese tourists are flying in do their thing that you ought to get a special permit to run that kind of an operation, if youre going to do that. YUEN:You could have bus once a week for example or twice a week and I dont know that, thats the kind of thing that I would say if you have decent off street loading I 13 EXHIBIT E