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disregard in the public hearing part of that process. That at least the neighbors will be notified and as part of that should be notified that they have comment period lasting x number of days, lets say 30 days, 60 days or whatever the thing might be while the Planning Department is undergoing approval process. Then at least the neighbors will say okay we have been notified, we had a comment period and therefore we can either comment or not comment and the Planning Director and his staff can use that as a means of whether or not to approve or not approve the particular application. So this is one thing that we found that was lacking. The next thing is the criteria about verifiable growth sales of a number that was picked out from somewhere as being $10,000.00. But we are saying that this is kind of hard to do because if you look at the properties, I grow macadamia nuts and coffee. From my coffee I can gross 6,000 per acre on my mac nuts the best I can do is roughly about 2,000 per acre. Lets say I have only 4 acres of macadamia nuts. Okay but I produce the best macadamia nuts in the world. But what would my gross income be $8,000.00 so I could never qualify under this particular regime of $10,000.00.NowyouwouldcutmeoutbutIvegot4acresofthebestnutsintheworldandthe tourist want to come and see it and they want to taste it and they want to take it home with them. But Im stuck cause you have a number so, and every crop is different and every and depending on how many acres you have, thats also different, say if Ive got a hundred acres and I only produce 2,000 per acre thats 200,000. But if I only got 3 acres and I only produce $2,000, well Im stuck now. Whereas if I had coffee and lets say I make 6,000 per acre then I only need you know, acre and a half or so to make the 10,000 criteria so, so what Im saying is that this is a hard thing to do when you set a criteria like that. So in this particular case were asking that unless you can come out with a criteria that is equitable for everybody then only the Schedule F should be used. Because at least the Schedule F tells you that you have done something to your land and you are actually reporting it to the government. But, in the case of a tree crop, macadamia nuts take 5 years normally to produce after planting. So that means youre saying I cannot do any Ag tourism? But yet you know these tourists have never seen a mac nut tree in their life and to show them a mac nut tree is something that theyll always remember. But it doesnt have to be making money for you at that particular time at the rate of $10,000 a year. So what Im saying is that at least if you get something in the ground that you have shown that you are in earnest living as far as trying to make a living in agriculture, that this should be enough of a criteria for you to make the judgment, which means that a Schedule F would be, to me if its good enough for the Federal Government it should be good enough for the County Government. So anyway, something like this should be looked at because a Schedule F would say that you have put an investment into the farm to work it although its not producing any money yet. Same like coffee, coffee takes 3 years minimum to get the first cherry. And other crops like you take, like certain kinds of fruit crops might take you 8 years to get the first crop profit. Whatre you going to do in the meanwhile but yet people who never saw lets say a certain kind of a tree, hey, you can at least see the tree. Okay so, were looking at probably this number value that is set, Im not sure its going to work as well. The last item that I would like to comment on is the maximum number of annual visitors which is right now set at 40,000. We have come up with a number of 6,000. That may be on the low side. This is, you know these numbers are negotiable and the low side is that 6,000 if you were to bring in visitors every single day, this would be 16 visitors a day, Im talking 365 days a year now. At 40,000 that works out to be about 109 visitors a day for 365 days a year. But of course youre not going to have visitors every day, more than likely. So some days you may have a 5 EXHIBIT E