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Nakatani and the committee from the union sat with the company and decided to get together and <br />make housing. Its unfortunate now that we cannot make more housing for more people. That <br />area was all plantation camps. We talk about we dont want to have Ag land be turned into -. <br />We have Ag land. We have a lot of Ag land there. We have all that sugar land that the lucky <br />rich guys can buy. The poor guy cannot buy. Maybe well break this up a little smaller then <br />maybe one of our guys can buy. They cannot buy 20 acres, but they might be able to scrounge <br />around and get the family together and buy the 5 acres. Were hoping and were trying to <br />encourage our guys to buy. But, you know, Im not against the guy who has got money either. <br />Thats his good luck or her good luck that theyve got money to buy it. But you know what? <br />We were born and raised on this island. You know, I went to Hilo High School, I didnt go to <br />college. But I learned things through the world of hard knocks and working. And I learned the <br />role of you folks as a Commissioner, and I understand that youre going to have to make this <br />decision. And there are a lot of emotions involved, but we cannot make our decision by <br />emotions. Weve got to make our decisions on the right thing to do under our rule and laws; and <br />thebeautypartaboutthisstateisthatwehavelaws.Andso,yes,wewanted30houselots. <br />Maybe we cant get them because weve got requirements to put in, weve got regulations to do, <br />so we might have to reduce it. <br />You know the house that I live on and the lot I have, theres a storm ditch. You know who takes <br />care of that storm ditch? Richard Baker. The plantation made my lot; and to make it like how <br />they said, they had to make an area for runoff and water, and theres a big culvert. I take care of <br />that culvert, I make sure it doesnt get locked up. That was my commitment in getting that lot. <br />And part of the deal on my lot was they reduced my price so I had it a little bit cheaper price for <br />my almost 12,000-square foot lot. And thats why it was a little bit bigger because I got the <br />ditch. And so I take care of the ditch. And when it rains like hell, this boy picks up three to four <br />bags of rubbish for somebody else up there throwing their rubbish down there. But thats my <br />responsibility and I do it. So, you know, because we have affordable housing, this is why this <br />can be done. Yeah, there are a lot of houses around the island that are cheap, that might be <br />cheaper than what they quoted on, but can they qualify for that? Through the affordable housing, <br />the regulations and guideline, and the self-help, it will allow somebody to get a house that <br />normally one cannot get. And thats what its about. Its not about running around and looking <br />for a real estate sign thats got a house thats pretty respectable and the guys can go and get a <br />loan for it. There are certain people that will not be able to have a house; and this is the <br />opportunity for them. This is why we ask you as Commissioners to vote favorably on this, make <br />sure you do your job and make sure that it meets all the guidelines. And Im pretty sure that if <br />the Director is recommending it and is looking at it with the attorneys sitting there, then we <br />should -. You need to do whatever you need to do to make it fit, but at least give people a <br />chance to get a house. Its going to be a little bit more costly because we have to add some stuff, <br />but were trying to keep it as affordable as possible. I know Im not going to get anything for my <br />kids, my kids arent going to get a house lot there. Ive got two of them, theyre on the <br />mainland. But somebodys kids, somebodys family will have a house. So, again, I ask you, <br />please vote in favor. Thank you. <br />GRAHAM:Thank you, Mr. Baker. Were still having long testimony, although its <br />heartfelt and appreciated. Id certainly hope we can at least get the, we have six more to testify, <br />at least get them in for sure before the 12:30 break and maybe we can move even farther along. <br />Any questions first? All right. Thank you, Mr. Baker; and thank you, Mr. Meek. The next three <br />we have are David Miller, Sheridan Kobayashi and Randall Duryea. Are the three of you here? <br />17EXHIBIT A <br /> <br />