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yea or nay on this one. So I feel that under the circumstances I will be supporting it, cause I <br />don€t feel it€s taking away from affordable housing. <br />GRAHAM:Thank you, Commissioner Siracusa. Since we are at a bare quorum with <br />five of us here at the moment because our Planning Commission Chairman, Mr. Alameda, is out <br />for an hour, it naturally arises in the mind that, well, for the most fairness to the applicant we <br />could put off a vote until we have as many as we get here today, which would be six. But I don€t <br />want to appear like we€re gaming the system in any way. So I€d like Commissioner Iwashita to <br />say how he feels about that, if you would please. <br />IWASHITA:Well, I think, procedure there€s a problem with the Chair returning and <br />considering this matter because he hasn€t heard, he would need to review at least the minutes of <br />the testimony presented; otherwise he wouldn€t have had the benefit of the entire record on this <br />matter. So I think procedurally that is a concern that I would have. Whether that€s a legitimate <br />concernornotontherulesoftheCommission,I€mnotcertain. <br />I€dliketoaddressthequestionraisedbythefactthatthehousethatusedtobeonthisproperty <br />has been demolished and how that should or shouldn€t affect the consideration of this proposal. <br />My view is that if this Commission looks at vacant land different from a lot that has an existing <br />dwelling that is being used and saying, well, we€re not going to take that into consideration, to <br />me what that does is it will encourage speculators to buy property, raze the land, knock down <br />any buildings on it and then come in for proposals that will get better consideration. And so to <br />me it€s not a good way to proceed, you know, with that kind of a rationale. I really believe that <br />the best way to proceed, you know, since we really don€t have a Commercial shortage, you <br />know, properties that are zoned Commercial that can be developed to meet whatever needs there <br />are commercially, that we can forego this and really encourage the Council to take steps to spend <br />a couple million bucks or whatever it€s going to take to get the Community Development Plans <br />done. And then it will be a real clear picture for developers, like Mr. Hirayama and his company <br />and others, in terms of where development will occur. And they won€t have to come to this body <br />to get it approved because the Community Development Plan would be relatively clear in terms <br />of what uses will be done where, and with what kind of design perhaps, you know, that the <br />community wants to see in how the commercial developments are done. You know, do we want <br />nice storefront wide sidewalks, on-street parking, public transit available to get to these areas or <br />do we want a Kihei strip mall, right? I mean that€s what a Community Development Plan allows <br />the community to choose; and that is, to me, the preferred smart way to go. <br />GRAHAM:Mr. Torigoe, I might just ask a little bit for your counsel on this. If in fact <br />we do take a vote and we don€t have a five-vote majority going for or against, then presumably <br />this moves forward to the next Planning Commission meeting; and I for that reason suggested <br />that maybe we wait for Mr. Alameda to return so we have six. But Commissioner Iwashita <br />brings up the good point that he hasn€t been here listening to the testimony we€ve put forth. So <br />do you have any comments on what you think would be proper and fairest? <br />TORIGOE:Okay, let€s see. There are two things that you mentioned. One was what <br />would happen if you don€t get five votes; and I think staff has indicated that this would have to <br />come back again at least one more time within the 90-day timeframe. <br />12EXHIBIT B <br /> <br />