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<br />AA: Right. Cause, like I don’t know if you support drone fishing, or you know people that do <br />or don’t but there was this drone fishing bill that got passed last year that basically <br />made it illegal to drone fish and there’s some people that was in support of it but there <br />was, more people against it. Then I think we had Robert Duerr and his friend from down <br />Kalapana that came in, but that bill just basically sailed right through because it didn’t <br />have enough support against it, right, it only had pro support. <br /> <br />AG: Right. Gotch ya. <br /> <br />AA: It’s just saying if we were drone fishermen that we didn’t have enough help to move <br />that bill along. <br /> <br />AG: OK. Thank you. <br /> <br />SW: Deputy Corporation Counsel – Sylvia Wan. Just to provide a little bit of perspective – so <br />this particular legislative committee in the motion, one right now is to identify bills that <br />are affecting hunting, fishing, and gathering – which I think is the appropriate method as <br />Mr. Duerr had pointed out – there are hundreds of bills that could be affecting hunting, <br />fishing, and gathering but as he has stated it is correct that maybe only a handful <br />actually have potential legs and is deserving of the time of this particular Commission <br />but I just wanted to – the reason why I’m piping up is because what the Commission can <br />do regarding this particular legislation is you can investigate that particular bill, <br />investigate the issues surrounding that particular bill and as a Commission you can <br />decide with a united voice what is your recommendation regarding that particular piece <br />of legislation and as the Commission as a whole – with a united voice – can provide <br />written testimony on that bill that can be submitted when otherwise testimony would <br />be submitted. So, you can do that. But you cannot lobby individual council members, <br />representatives, senators or the like as \[unclear\] or nay on a particular bill. Cause that’s <br />what crosses the line is the lobbying. <br /> <br />BL: Brian – District 4. Eh, I had a discussion with the State Ethics Board in Honolulu about <br />this and they said that there’s no way considered lobbying what we do and is actually <br />encouraged cause this is what our mission is and I’ve got a – I can’t find the email right <br />now – but I had a discussion and he sent an email – I think I forwarded it to a couple of <br />people but we are not lobbying we are doing what we’re – in the scope of what we’re <br />doing – we can talk to individuals – we can do whatever we want to according to the <br />Hawaii Ethics Board. <br /> <br />SW: OK, so… <br /> <br />BL: So, if Sylvia wants to talk to the Ethics Board that is up to her but I’m telling you what I <br />had a long conversation with them and they told me that it’s not lobbying what we do. <br /> <br />18 <br /> <br /> <br />