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<br />rules. Of what DLNR is proposing is essentially they estimate there’s between 60 and 70 <br />boats that right now are viewing manta rays. They want to cut that – and most of <br />that is in Makako Bay and Keauhou Bay – two sites. They want to cut that down to 24 <br />permits and then they want the permits to carry – a vessel would carry no more than 60 <br />passengers. And then within a single 24-hour period. So, you can’t do multiple trips of <br />an hour. And then they have other additional proposed rules for that so, um, Natalie’s <br />spot on with now’s a good time to start putting input here. <br /> <br />NR: Yeah, cause, like I said, they like drop them off, come back, reload and I’ve been there <br />and, you know, ‘cause we fish and I’ve seen the same boat load up 20 people on like a <br />12-person little boat and it just doesn’t make any sense. And literally all night long – <br />four to five boats going out – same company. <br /> <br />TN: Abraham, Teresa. May I say something? We’re open for discussion, so I just want to <br />make a suggestion. <br /> <br />AA: Sylvia? Can the public make a comment during this time or is it just for Commissioners? <br /> <br />SW: This would be just for Commissioners. As far as public comments go – that’s during <br />testimony and that’s how the public can provide input to the Commission. So technically <br />there is no rule that specifically allows the public to ask questions, but if the Chair so <br />wants to allow (unclear) for a particular question, you can, ah, generally at an in person <br />meeting questions like that written down and can be at the discretion of the Chair <br />closed to the panel or not. So… <br /> <br />AA: OK. I going let Teresa speak just because this is part of the – there’s no option for the <br />community to speak and since we’re not in person, ah, there’s no option for the public <br />to write down anything, so, yeah, Teresa, you can speak. <br /> <br />TN: May I suggest that you contact DAR and have an open communication into this rule <br />making and then we – then the Commissioners would have an avenue and they could <br />possibly start a committee and do a suggestion of what their input would be as part of <br />the new rules upcoming – that’s all I wanted to suggest. <br /> <br />AA: Thanks, Teresa. And when we make this committee – that’s what the committee would <br />have to do anyway as part of their investigation. Any other comments from the <br />Commissioners? OK. Abraham, District – 5, I guess we’ll just move on to a roll call vote <br />to create this investigation committee. Sylvia, can you make a roll call vote, please? <br /> <br />SW: Yes, and just to clarify, I’ll call the question, which is the motion on the floor right now is <br />to investigate – based on the discussion and please correct me if this is correct or not – <br />but to investigate the rules and penalties regarding manta ray tours and their effects on <br />the manta ray populations. Is that correct, Ms. Reynolds? <br /> <br />7 <br /> <br /> <br />