2022-12-13 Police Commission Regular Minutes

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Hawaii Police Commission Special Meeting Minutes December 13, 2022 Page 18 thing, it's just that we're trained to expect that. We're not trained to expect someone whom we don't recognize as law enforcement. ➢ Sherry Bird stated as far as their county, they have issued concealed carry weapon permits. She stated her police department has received training. Can they do more? Of course, they can do more. She would promote practical, hands-on scenario type of training. They have disseminated training via their PowerDMS system to the officers. Also engaging with the community and making them aware that this is what's in place, this is why it's in place and if they have concerns they're more than welcome to call. They have a system in place in their computer system, if they're encountering someone, investigating someone, they can look up their name and there will be a notification attached to that permit holder's name, so the officer has that in the back of their minds. Not saying permit holders are criminals or anything, but for officer safety reasons, that flag comes up. Part of the training also provides the officers with responses. If you encounter someone with a permit and they're engaged in criminal activity, here's what you need to do. They do have training in place, but they could do more and they need to balance that with protecting individual rights • Commissioner Lassiter asked if one of you were to be selected as police chief, would you select another candidate to be your deputy? ➢ Benjamin Moszkowicz stated they kind of touched on that a little bit. He stated if he were selected he would choose a deputy from within the department. He thinks that when selecting a deputy chief from within the ranks of the Hawaii County Police Department, it's important to find someone who shares your values and whom you can trust to act on your behalf and someone who can help lead the administration. That being said, he thinks the question might put the cart before the horse a little bit. It involves conversations that need to be had that haven't been had. They're on a table with very well-qualified people and who else better to pick all things being equal than someone who is equally as well as qualified as you to take the job? ➢ Sherry Bird stated there's a table full of qualified people here. She doesn't want to put that cart before the horse. Should she get the position and have to make that decision, she will definitely consider qualified personnel for that spot. ➢ Edward Ignacio stated not to echo everyone's sentiments, but he agrees with them. There are qualified people there and as he said before, he will pick someone from within the department and there's only one person in the department there. You need to find someone who is like-minded as you and