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project because you told us something, every negotiation I€ve ever been involved in whether it be <br />a contested case or with the concerned neighbors we write it down it goes in as a condition of <br />approval. The fact is, is that the AOAO that dropped the contested case and you€ll notice there is <br />a letter in there from Mr. Kim indicating that they dropped the contested case, they had a board <br />meeting the same day as our last Commission meeting. This issue of our project was not even <br />raised at that meeting. The agreement is with, for the easement, is with Vacations <br />Internationale. They€re the landowners that own it. So anything that we agreed to them has to <br />be in writing, all right. And if we cannot reach an agreement with them this permits not valid <br />because it says very clearly in here that we have to have a 20 foot roadway so you know those <br />agreements all have to be in writing. So the fact that Mr. Soto is no longer the applicant it didn€t <br />grant any advantage to Mr. Huggett. <br />WATANABE:Thank you. <br />SPRINGER:CommissionerIwashita? <br />IWASHITA:ThankyouMadameChair.Iwanttomakesurewefollowtherules,I€d <br />like, maybe address this to Counsel. Rule 4-6c is the rule requiring the Applicant to serve notice <br />okay. And Rule 4-2 defines under subsection 2 applicant as a person whose seeking the approval <br />of the Commission. In this case for an SMA Permit. And 7 defines a person as an individual all <br />right? As I interpret this, those rules as it applies to the Applicant before us now, the Huggetts; <br />that seems to me to require the Huggetts as the Applicant to serve notice. Any comments? <br />SPRINGER:Mr. Torigoe? <br />IWASHITA:I€m address- I€m sorry, I€m addressing it to Applicant€s counsel. <br />SPRINGER:Mr. Schultz? <br />SCHULTZ:I think it€s my understanding that the contested case was actually <br />withdrawn back in December 2003, 4, 3, December 2003. So there really wasn€t a contested <br />case going on at that point after the AOAO pulled out. In either case, we did, it€s my <br />understanding that we did do a notice as if there was still a contested going on we just didn€t say <br />that there was one. Cause it was our understanding given to us by the Planning Department that <br />this was merely a resumption of the application for SMA 03-007. <br />IWASHITA:Yeah I understand that. But I€m just asking you to address what the rule <br />says and actually the way I read it going backwards since the Applicant is provided notice right. <br />I know the former applicant provided notice. <br />SCHULTZ:Right. <br />IWASHITA:But the Applicants now are the Huggetts. <br />SCHULTZ:Uh, huh. <br />EXHIBIT C <br />12 <br /> <br />