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clearly the intent of the agreement, and it wasn€t an order. The Applicant and I both agreed that <br />we would submit them 10 days before and the reason for that is that we could have done further <br />research on each others positions so that we could answer Mr. Iwashita€s questions with regard <br />to law and the like. When I receive something the day before the hearing I can prepare orally but <br />I think its quite unfair, not only to myself and my parties but also to the Commission. So, I€ll <br />just leave that for you to consider it is a motion and I would like a ruling on it. Having said that, <br />I am willing to address the substance as best I can of what is being argued here today. What is <br />being argued here today is whether or not my clients should get a contested case hearing. As the <br />nd <br />record reveals at the last hearing on April 22 a letter was sent by the Planning Director to my <br />clients saying that a contested case hearing was required. Following that Mr. Mooers had a <br />conversation with Mr. Hayashi and was informed that he didn€t have to do that. He didn€t have <br />to follow the letter of the Planning Commission. That a contested, Planning Director, that a <br />Commission, that a contested case hearing could be sought. So all the people who got that notice <br />letter didn€t get notice that they had a right to a contested case hearing. Then, when we show up, <br />where my clients had to hire counsel at the hearing we€re informed for the first time that Mr. <br />Mooers was released of that obligation. Even though there was no letter saying my previous <br />letter saying that there was a need for a contested case hearing is rescinded and in fact it wasn€t <br />till after that this was even brought up. When I reviewed the Applicant€s memorandum they <br />appear to say 2 things. Number 1, that when you have a permit that right runs with the land but <br />as Mr. Iwashita pointed out and I was going to argue it, there€s no permit here, none. There€s no <br />right here, all there is, is an application. And, I will tell you that when I got their memorandum I <br />went on the internet, I used my Weslaw, I searched for cases to try to look at applications and I€d <br />already done so previous. There are none. So this is an area where there is no controlling <br />authority in the State of Hawaii. This is a gray area for this body. The bottom line is, it€s a <br />policy decision that you have to make. I will comment although I cannot cite specific examples <br />that during the administration in which Mr. Yuen has been Director there have been no <br />substitutions allowing contested case hearings. But I am informed that they have done in <br />previous administrations. Now, the argument that I have developed is based upon that previous <br />situation. You have an application, the applicant and their representative go out to the <br />community and say hey, ladies and gentlemen here we are, this is who we are, this is what we <br />want to build. I want to talk to you, check out my financial background, check out my ability to <br />keep my word if you want to oppose it let me talk to you, let me make agreements with you, let <br />me tell you if there are disagreements what I€m going to do to try to solve this before we go to <br />the Planning Commission. That was done in this case. And that was done by the Applicant, Mr. <br />Eric Soto. The Applicant before you is not Mr. Soto. So whatever Mr. Soto said is with Mr. <br />Soto. Now this application came before the Commission August 1, 2003. What happened <br />between August 1, 2003 and May 20, 2005? What happened is that Mr. Soto abandoned his <br />application. He abandoned his project. All of the representations he made are no longer valid <br />because he is not the applicant. The new applicant can now come in and say, I didn€t say that, I <br />never agreed to that. What I get is what I get, tough. What we are saying is as a matter of public <br />policy is that when you have not a permit, I will concede, right now, I will concede that if he had <br />a permit it runs with the land that€s the law we agree on that. But this is not a permit, this is an <br />application. So let€s look at it from a policy standpoint. Is the Planning Commission going to <br />encourage as a matter of public policy intra-transfer of ownership as if nothing happened? Cause <br />that€s what you have here. Or, as I believe the Planning Director properly indicated whenever <br />you have a change of the applicant, that is a substantial and material change of the application <br />EXHIBIT C <br />9 <br /> <br />