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started going there. He was kicked out of school at three. And we have a wonderful four-year old now, who thinks twice, who thinks twice at that age, when he is going to do something. And I really can’t expect any of you to understand that unless you meet him, or actually have met us before; but if you did, it’s another child. And I don’t think we could have accomplished that anywhere else. Because of the place that he is in -, I don’t know how many of you have actually gone up there; but if you haven’t, you probably should. We are not talking here out of -, you know, because we’ve got nothing to do. I had to bring all these toys to make him sit with me, so I could get a chance to tell you. You have to go up there and see what all these people are talking about. It’s not just a beautiful place, it’s what you feel when you are up there. You can’t really explain it, you just have to experiment it. So I really encourage all of you to take that 20- minute drive and make your car suffer a little bit before you make any decision because it will be worthwhile and you’ll be making a lot of people happy with it. So thank you. WATANABE: Thank you. Do we have any questions? Okay. Ma’am, you may begin. GOUVEIA: Good morning. I’m Tamara Gouveia. My address is 73-1427A Kaloko Drive. I live at the bottom. And I’m here to support the application. I have adopted my husband’s older daughter and her little sister who are born to diseases of ADHD, or drug- addicted children. And so there is a history in my life and my family’s life of ADHD. I grew up not knowing what it was. And when I was introduced to Dr. Lelah, Dr. Strickler and some other professionals in the community, I just learned how important it is to have people like Dr. Lelah in the children’s lives to give them stability to teach them, as they are growing up, how to be respectable citizens of our community. When they get into a situation and they don’t know what to do, they turn to the elders because that’s what they were taught at young age. I happen to live in the spirit of this particular land that we are talking about. I’m at the bottom of the hill. And I just -, I totally support him; I think it’s a wonderful idea. I, too, have been in counseling in a little psychologist’s office where I lie flat on my back on the couch; and I would much rather be in the forest. It’s just so much more peaceful, walking around the property and being one with nature and the spirit. I’m just really in support of it. That’s all I have. WATANABE: Do we have any questions for Ms. Gouveia? Thank you. Sir, name and address, please. S. LELAH: My name is Saul Lelah. I am the father of Reuben Lelah. I’m not here to talk about his capabilities as a doctor. WATANABE: Can you hold the mike a little closer, please. S. LELAH: I’ve been here in Kona for 23 years. I’ve seen things happen. I’ve seen things grow. I’ve seen things being killed.Mr. Chairman, you had a question to one of the people who came up here to talk about his capabilities; your question was, Dr. Lelah is one man, what can he do to do all of this stuff that he needs to do and give the therapy that he needs to give therapy to the kids. I was the instigator to bring my son here to Kona when he finished his studies at Harvard University. What this one man does is more than give therapy to the children who have special needs. He goes to court to fight cases for the children that needs special treatment, which certain insurance companies will not provide.He goes to the funerals of the EXHIBIT A 21