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were circulated.) What’s coming around is a half acre of forest. You know, native forest is not <br />limited to Volcano, folks; there is native forest in lower Puna. This is what’s happening, pin to <br />pin clearing of the forest all over Puna. This is a gradual but very systemic thing that’s <br />happening. <br />And when I allude to the second point here about this being a grassroots plan, there were four <br />kickoff public meetings 300 people came to. These are statistics from R&D Department. Three <br />hundred people came before kickoff public meetings. And then there were 130 small group <br />meetings; 1,152 people came to those smaller group meetings. And they were pulled on a very <br />small personal level in people’s living rooms, community centers. And when they were <br />concerned about the land, the number one thing that kept coming up was grading and grubbing. <br />And it’s a reaction and notification of what these pictures are showing here. And there were two <br />more of large public meetings; 250 people went to those. Then there were Working Groups; <br />they talked about land use and then transportation, natural resources. Those were the major <br />issues. They went into sub-groups, a thousand fifty-three hours. Then the Steering Committee, I <br />think it was 12 dedicated people hours upon hours; they put in 1,400 hours. The hours of just <br />people volunteering to produce the paper as the Plan totals up, from R&D here, 5,600 hours. <br />Folks, you know, if there isn’t a more grassroots effort that put this Plan here, yes, with all the <br />imperfections and zoning issues and this or that, I don’t know of anything else there is. And for <br />my children and hopefully my grandchildren, should I live so long, you know, we need one plan. <br />My last point is that in some ways I believe this Plan is already working because on Monday of <br />this week, before the Council Committee interdepartmental committee, Brenda Ford chairing, a <br />petition was presented to the Council folks by 700 residents of Puna, saying you’ve got to do <br />something about the grubbing and grading. Twenty people spoke for nearly two hours, seven of <br />the nine Council folks stuck it out from 4:30 to 6:30. And there were testifiers, no not just tree <br />huggers from Volcano, they’re people who care about the grubbing and grading issues island- <br />wide; people from Kona came, people from Waimea, people from lower Puna, upper Puna. Two <br />of the Council folks said, hey, give us some wording, give us some language. I know previous <br />Councils have tried to -, certain folks have tried to get this Chapter 10 revised. But this is how a <br />plan is supposed to work is that I feel this is the voice of the people, there is a momentum <br />building; so already it’s happening towards amending Chapter 10 at the Council level. <br />So that’s just my take. And I would say one last thing. I don’t think anyone has any problem <br />with Shipman doing a regional center; I don’t think anyone has any problem with the woman to <br />my left, on that regional center. But we do need smaller regional village centers around Puna, <br />close to home that maybe we can walk or bike to or not get in the car so much. So I think it’s not <br />either or. I don’t think Shipman really has in my personal opinion anything to be that concerned <br />about. And you know, Bill Walters, I heard that he was involved in the work at the Working <br />Group level many, many, many, many times and always welcomed. So I don’t want that <br />impression or to be implied that Shipman wasn’t involved; they certainly were. Thank you so <br />much. <br />WATANABE: Any questions? Thank you. <br />MERMEL: Thank you. <br />EXHIBIT C <br />17 <br /> <br />