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And I just want to tell you that, No. 1, the maps were wrong in this. Right, John? We were told <br />way back when, and we told -, it was our understand that John Whalen‘s contract ran out <br />December 31, 2007; and he has had to put all this stuff together now. We have said over and <br />over that the maps were wrong; we have given a lot of input online, in meetings. And yes, there <br />are problems with this report, but overall it represents the manao of most of the people of Puna, <br />no, not the large landowners. That was what the civil rights action said was wrong with the <br />previous plans. The people that were working on this report, they went through all of the <br />previous plans. They went through the Puna regional circulation plans. I’ve got papers here; this <br />is a 1994 -, 2004 response. We had input from people through the years.We have all sorts of <br />different organizations. Even in my own Nanawale Community Association minutes, I have <br />found minutes where Tom Brown came out and told us in 2003 that we were going to get thus <br />and so. He’s got -, we’ve got -. <br />WATANABE: Ms. Stapleton. <br />STAPLETON: Yes. <br />WATANABE: If you can wrap up, please. <br />STAPLETON: All right. What I want to say basically as to this plan, No. 1, the people <br />said over and over and over they wanted the rural atmosphere retained. They were also <br />concerned about public safety.And they also were concerned about the connectivity, which is <br />what all these cul-de-sacs are. We have 41 subdivisions, and we have more than 500 square <br />miles of nothing but 50-mile one-way roads. Think about it, okay? And Mr. Watanabe, I’m <br />sorry, it’s been long. I just want to tell the lady from Foster Kern, her comments were not <br />ignored. We listened to Mr. Walters. We gave great respect to him. But when we were tried to <br />talk about Railroad Avenue, he kept talking about it like it was his property; and I finally had to <br />ask, well, doesn’t Railroad Avenue go all the way to Kapoho, which it does. I mean, the <br />thinking is like the serfs and the plantation manager. And those days are gone. We are now in <br />st <br />the 21 century. Mr. Whalen gave us ideas on how to fund such things as WiFi, on park and ride <br />facilities and all of that in the Working Papers, but we could not include all of that in our report. <br />So there is so much addendum that nobody has even asked us to look -, not even looked at -, not <br />one person has asked to look at, who came to our meetings, not one; and yet I’ve gone to every <br />meeting and offered it. And I would say we’ve got all this information right here. Thank you. <br />WATANABE: Okay. Do we have any questions? No? <br />SIRACUSA: No, but I do want to thank Frankie for coming in and answering a lot of <br />the questions and addressing a lot of the concerns that have been raised by Members of this <br />Commission and members of the public who came out to testify. Thanks, Frankie. <br />WATANABE: Okay, thank you. I have two other testifiers signed up: Kale Gumapac and <br />John Roberts. Would the two of you come up, please. Kale Gumapac and John Roberts. <br />PUBLIC: John is not here. He had to leave. <br />EXHIBIT C <br />19 <br /> <br />