HomeMy WebLinkAbout2018-05-09 Merit Appeals Board MinutesMerit Appeals Board
Department of Human Resources
101 Pauahi Street, Suite 102
Hilo, Hawaii
May 9, 2018 (Wednesday)
Call to Order (Item 1)
The regular meeting of the Merit Appeals Board, County of Hawaii, was called to order at
9:01 a.m. by Chair David K. S. Nahuina, at the Department of Human Resources (HR)
Conference Room, 101 Pauahi Street, Suite 2, Hilo, Hawaii, on Wednesday, May 9, 2018.
Roll Call — Present
Mr. David K. S. Nahuina, Chair
Mr. William Chillingworth, Vice -Chair
Mr. Mitch Tam, Member
Absent & Excused
Ms. Luahiwa Namahoe, Member
Also Present
Mr. J Yoshimoto, Deputy Corporation Counsel, Ofc. of the Corp. Counsel
Mr. William V. Brilhante, Jr., Director, HR Department
Mr. Allan M. Yokoyama, Deputy Director, HR Department
Ms. Gabriella Cabanas, HR Manager II, HR Department
Ms. Leslie Shimabukuro, HR Specialist I, HR Department
Mr. John Mukai, Deputy Corporation Counsel, Ofc. of the Corp. Counsel
Mr. James Levi Makaio, Appellant
Mr. Richard Thomason, Deputy Attorney General, State Attorney General's Office
Ms. Glynis Yamada, Secretary -Reporter, HR Department
Merit Appeals Board
Addendum to the Agenda (Item 2)
There was none.
Statements from the Public (Item 3)
There were none.
Approval of Minutes (Item 4)
There were none.
Communication(s) (Item 5)
There were none.
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New Business (for discussion and appropriate action) (Item 6)
Annual Performance Evaluation Process for the Director of Human Resources for Fiscal
Year 2017-2018.
CHR. NAHUINA: So, we'll get to "New Business" first—and that will be the "Annual
Performance Evaluation." This is all you. I'm sorry, Bill, I know you're ready to go and you're
all excited
MR. BRILHANTE: No, no, no.
CHR. NAHUINA: I was wondering if it'd be all right with you to take it out of order—do the
"Unfinished Business"—since we have Mr. Makaio here.
MR. BRILHANTE: Yes. I appreciate that. Thank you very, Chair.
CHR. NAHUINA: Thank you very much for your understanding. Mr. Makaio, will that be okay
with you?
MR. MAKAIO: Sure.
Unfinished Business (for discussion and appropriate action) (Item 7)
Hearing – 9:00 a.m.
Communication No. 17-09, received on December 1, 2017, appealing a recruitment and
examination action (minimum qualification requirement process) by the Department of
Human Resources; and
Communication No. 17-09.01, received on January 31, 2018, from County requesting a
continuance of the hearing currently scheduled for March 21, 2018. (Note: At its meeting
held on January 10, 2018, the Merit Appeals Board granted the County's request for a
continuance with no objection from the Appellant.); and
(Note: The aforementioned Communications was listed on the Merit Appeals Board
agenda dated January 10, 2018.)
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Communication No. 17-09.02, received on April 23, 2018, regarding County's (Appellee's)
Witness List; Certificate of Service; and
Communication No. 17-09.03, received on April 23, 2018, regarding County's (Appellee's)
Exhibit List; Exhibits "1" – "13"; Certificate of Service.
CHR. NAHUINA: All right. Excellent. Mr. Makaio, I'd like to ask if you would like to have
this as an open meeting or closed
MR. MAKAIO: Oh, that's fine.
CHR. NAHUINA: Open is fine?
MR. MAKAIO: Yeah.
CHR. NAHUINA: I'd like to introduce—ask the Board Members to introduce themselves,
please?
MR. CHILLINGWORTH: I'm Bill Chillingworth and I am now the Vice -Chairman.
MR. TAM: I'm Mitch Tam.
CHR. NAHUINA: I'm David Nahuina, I'm the Chair. And counsel's here—if I can them to
introduce themselves, please?
MR. THOMASON: Sure. I'm Richard Thomason, I'm sitting in for Jim Halvorson today.
CHR. NAHUINA: This hearing is on the appeal filed by James Levi Makaio. The issue in this
case has been identified as—did the Employer, the Department of Human Resources of the
County of Hawaii—violate any statutes, regulations, rules, or personnel policies when they
disqualified the Appellant's application for the Mass Transit Administrator open -competitive
recruitment because of the Appellant's failure to meet the minimum requirements—lacking
required education, and experience, and driver's license?
MR. MUKAL Mr. Chair.
CHR. NAHUINA: Yes.
MR. MUKAL For the record, John Mukai, Deputy Corporation Counsel, on behalf of the
Department of Human Resources. I, also, I have two witnesses here—Ms. Gabriella Cabanas
and Ms. Leslie Shimabukuro.
I was wondering whether or not Mr. Makaio or the Board would be adverse to having both
witnesses here—or whether the witness exclusion will be evoked?
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MR.MAKAIO: It's fine with me for them to be here because it's really not about the job that
I'm here for. I'll explain as soon as you let me get up to the mic.
CHR. NAHUINA: Thank you.
MR. MAKAIO: Okay.
CHR. NAHUINA: Are we okay with that? Fine—thank you—so that will be fine. Thank you.
If the answer to the above is "yes" then what remedy can be awarded by the Merit Appeals
Board. Are there any questions or disputes concerning the Board's jurisdiction over this matter?
MR. MUKAL Not at this time, but based on Mr. Makaio's recent statement—possibly.
CHR. NAHUINA: Do the parties have any statements or concerns with regard to the issue in
this case? No? Well, we'll continue then.
The strict rules of evidence will not apply in this hearing, however, the Board requests that all
parties confine themselves to the matters connected with today's hearing that the issue before the
Board—if witnesses are used, the opposite parties will be allowed to cross-examine the witness.
Members of the Board may also question the witness after the witness's testimony. Are there
any questions? If not, we're going to proceed. All right.
I'd like to allow the Appellant to make an opening statement.
MS. YAMADA: Mr. Makaio you come forward, please?
MR. MAKAIO: Okay.
CHR. NAHUINA: This will be an opening statement.
MR. MAKAIO: So, you want an opening statement from me?
CHR. NAHUINA: Yes, please. And we would swear him in after the opening statement or
now?
MR. THOMASON: After.
CHR. NAHUINA: Okay. I'm sorry.
MR. MAKAIO: Again, my name is James Levi Makaio—and I'd like to thank the Board for
hearing and allowing me to appear before you to explain my situation.
Now, I did not understand fully the process of going through the process of getting the job. My
main concern was that there was no one for the job that was stepping up. And that's the reason
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why I stepped up because I am part of the program because I do use the taxi share ride program
and, of course, the Hele-On.
And, I was one of the first drivers for the Hele-On busses back in the 1970s under Jackie Matsuo.
So I know the whole scam about this situation, especially in tourism when I was managing
companies. I managed five companies—MacKenzie Big Island Tours, Hawaiian Scenic Tours,
Cactus Jack Rent -a -Car, and Hawaiian Scenic School Bus. And I also managed the Kona
Airport Taxi Company under three different owners.
Now, the problem with me is that when I came out of the service in 1960-1970-1 attended the
community college for economics and business. Now, it was boring. I didn't even last a
semester. I dropped out. The reason for that is everything they were teaching me was already
taught to me by my parents in our family business—Abraham Makaio Enterprises.
We were into farming, luau catering—and my mother was an entertainer with her side job. She
entertained with Mary Keahilihau and (inaudible) Spalding. And when the sisters left, she
continued to entertain with Aunty Edith Kanakaole.
So, I learned everything from my parents nothing to do with schooling. And I started in the
business at the age of 8 years -old. And in 1960 when the tsunami came—we only lasted for
about one year because no one's buying fruits, prices dropped, macadamia nuts went down—so
we gave up the farming—we gave up the business. Plus, my parents were getting older.
So, what I'm asking the Board to do is not for the job because to tell you the truth, I don't want
it. It's too much of a headache, especially when people don't know what they're doing. Now, I
would like, though, to have my application redone again. Because the five years that I was
managing the companies they didn't teach me nothing else while I made money for them.
So, I want to re -apply, put my—do my—re-apply and show them where my education came
from. I have pictures of my sister folks and when my mother entertaining. I can show you
pictures of my father and mother, who was in the group that built the Hawaiian Village. Now,
this is the reason why Hawaiian Village was built.
In the forties the Mormon church—and my parents were part of the Mormon church the
Mormon church in Laie this is where the Samoans started the paina where they would get the
tourist on the side—do a beach party with them. So, then when my parents picked that up by
going to Laie to the temple that's when they started to bring back the dances for—from Maori
from Tahiti and what have you. And this is when they came up with the idea—with Doc Hill
to build a Hawaiian Village just to go after the tourist from Lurline and Matsonia.
Now, the problem with this is that when we started the luau back then we did it at night. Rain
so that's the reason why we changed it around. Why? They doing here they're here during the
day as well—not all of them going on tours. So, what we did—we started the luau during lunch
time from 10 to 2. This is your time bracket for tourism in Hilo that's when usually it opens
up—and then, rain will come afterwards.
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So, this is how we ran our luau business in Keaukaha. And just because my father was into
everythingI asked him once—"Why am I doing this" because I did everything the luau, the
pit, everything, the coconut—whatever. Everything they did, I had to do. My mom and dad
when they did the books, I had to sit down with them and learn how to do it. Everything. I had
those calculating machines that was from the dinosaur—stone age those big bastards where
you had to press every stinking number and then crank, crank, crank. And when you're missing
one penny and you got to do that 10, 15 times until you get it straight—you learn real fast. You
do not throw in the extra money because what you're doing, you're creating a mess`cause
eventually it's going to show up in the tax.
So, I want to ask the Board to ask HR to redo my app. again—and this time, I'll put down
everything that's needed to show where my education came from and not to use my business
experience that takes away from my app, if I ever end up trying to run Mass Transit again. I'm
going for the election clerk's job nice and easy, okay?
Thank you for showing up. I didn't expect—and I'm glad that somebody else is going to be in
front of you guys, but that's my request. Nothing about getting the job—she can keep that job.
Good for her.
CHR. NAHUINA: Thank you.
MR. MAKAIO: Okay. That's it—that's just the request I wanted.
MR. MUKAL Can I move to dismiss at this time that there's really no remedy that can be issued
by the Board, if Mr. Makaio's testimony is that he doesn't want the job
MR. MAKAIO: Yeah, I agree. That's the purpose. I was just coming here to ask for to redo
the app.
MR. MUKAL `Cause I think, under the circumstances, there's really no remedy even if an
application is resubmitted and the process if redone there's already been testimony that there is
no intent for him to accept—even if offered the Mass Transit—
MR.
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MR. MAKAIO: I'll object to that. There might be a time because it's happened before with me
and other companies. So, don't put that statement that—
MR.
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MR. MUKAL And that's fine
MR. MAKAIO: For now, I don't want it.
MR. MUKAL He is always free to update his profile on NeoGov
CHR. NAHUINA: Yes.
MR. MUKAL that's never been any impediment to Mr. Makaio's claim or what he seeks.
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CHR. NAHUINA: Okay.
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MR. MUKAL So, if—at this time, I'll just move to dismiss this—Mr. Makaio's claim.
MR. MAKAIO: I agree.
MR. CHILLINGWORTH: So, under those circumstances, Mr. Chairman, I would move that the
appeal of Mr. Makaio be dismissed—with Mr. Makaio having the opportunity to update his
application at any time in the future should he wish to do so. It sounds like he has a wealth of
business and personal experience here in Hilo and on the Island of Hawaii that would be
worthwhile having and taking advantage of. So
MR. MAKAIO: This is what I've been doing—excuse me. This is what I've been doing with
the (inaudible) when he came out to help the Mayor. As soon as he stepped on board, I started
talking to him and he said—figured what I was saying. So, he knew what I was talking about
and about my experience just because I didn't have the necessary documents, that's why I
didn't put really till after.
But I'm not going to step on the side. I will be approaching this new administrator—talking to
her also. I can give her some ideas because there's a lot of things she has to fix. And one of
them is the remedial training for few drivers that is real bad. Well, anyway, thank you.
CHR. NAHUINA: Can I have a second?
MR. TAM: I second—what you said.
CHR. NAHUINA: It's been moved and seconded that the
MR. CHILLINGWORTH: The motion is
CHR. NAHUINA: the motion be dismissed.
MR. CHILLINGWORTH: The appeal be dismissed subject to the conditions that I've already
talked about.
CHR. NAHUINA: Yes.
MR. CHILLINGWORTH: It's good to have a judge, eh, on the Board?
CHR. NAHUINA: Yes. All those in favor say "aye?"
AYES: Board Members Chillingworth, Tam, and Chair Nahuina — 3.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Board Member Namahoe —1.
EXCUSED: None.
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CHR. NAHUINA: Same sign—disagree? The "ayes" have it—it's dismissed.
MR. CHILLINGWORTH: Thank you, Mr. Makaio.
MR. MAKAIO: Thank you.
MR. CHILLINGWORTH: Good to see you, again.
MR. TAM: Thank you, Sir.
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CHR. NAHUINA: Thank you, Mr. Makaio, I appreciate it. Thank you. At this time, we can
continue then?
MS. YAMADA: You can continue, but I'm going to see if I can change his flight.
CHR. NAHUINA: Absolutely. Would you like to take a recess?
MS. YAMADA: That would be helpful.
CHR. NAHUINA: Okay.
MS. YAMADA: Thank you.
CHR. NAHUINA: Ten-minute recess.
Recess: The Chair called for a recess at 9:19 a.m.
Reconvene: The meeting reconvened at 9:35 a.m.
CHR. NAHUINA: It is 9:35 and we will reconvene the Merit Appeals Board. At this time,
we'll go on to our "New Business"so, Bill.
New Business (for discussion and appropriate action) (Item 6)
Annual Performance Evaluation Process for the Director of Human Resources for Fiscal
Year 2017-2018.
MR. BRILHANTE: You know what—good morning, Merit Appeals Board, Members
William Brilhante, Director, Human Resources.
As far as the evaluation goes, my understanding of the process and—correct me if I'm wrong—is
that pursuant to MAB Rule "100-11 Performance evaluation" you have three criteria that you
set forth as to what the basis of your evaluation will be for the information that formulate the
basis of your evaluation. And, I have no objection to that going forward—and I also would
welcome any discussion in regards to this matter.
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I believe, historically, what I provide the MAB with—or what the Director generally provides
the MAB with is just a basic, I guess, spreadsheet of what I identify as my top and primary goals
to, hopefully, allow us to meet departmental and County -wide and the community expectations
as to what areas of priority that I feel that, as administrator, we should set for our department
going forward.
And pursuant to that, I have three specific performance goals that I would like to address this
year—on July 1, 2017 to June 30, 2018. The first goal would be develop and implement a
County -wide supervisor and manager training and certification program. And I think I alluded to
that in one of my previous quarterly reports to the MAB that topic area. We've been in
conjunct—communications with Hawaii Community College and, most recently, with
University of Hawaii at Hilo. And it's been brought to my attention by both departmental heads
as well as the administration the mayor—primarily and directly, is that as the administration
changes, one of the effects of that is the new boss comes in and he brings his people—he or she
brings their people.
And, I think because we were in a cycle where the previous administration was in the position of
running the County for eight years, a lot of that institutional knowledge and historical knowledge
was kept within that group. And, as the new administration came in, there was a lot of transition.
I think this was one of the most—how shall I say it—fluid exchanges of personnel that we have
seen in more recent time. `Cause when Harry was serving—when the current Mayor, Harry
Kim, was serving his first term when he termed out after his second term, a lot of his directors,
deputies, and administrators was held over by the Kenoi Administration.
CHR. NAHUINA: Yes.
MR. BRILHANTE: But as the Kenoi Administration progressed and went forward, there was a
lot of transition. And then, when Mayor Kenoi termed out, unfortunately, there wasn't that
continual carry over of the personnel. So, a lot of new people were brought in. And with that—
think
hatthink a lot of the new people that were brought in didn't have the real strong governmental
knowledge base that is so unique from the private sector. There're significantly different
management style and management approach when you're dealing with governmental
employees—civil service employees—as opposed to the private sector employees.
And I think that gap between those two sectors, are types of employees—wasn't really bridged
significantly and a lot of questions were—would be—would come up from the departments
"Well, how do we approach this situation? Or how do we approach that situation?" And I
think—and what the mayor communicated to me was that we don't have a current program in
place that would be there to educate the new administration, and the new managers, and the new
department heads. And not just educate but to, I guess, allow them to the opportunity to be
introduced to how the governmental sector works.
And I know, just the top of our head, we've had significant conversations with various
departments regarding disciplinary action—what's the proper disciplinary action. What do we
do if an employee is sick, doesn't show up to work, and we don't hear from him? What's the
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appropriate steps or—and the like. And, now, I think how do you conduct a proper job
performance evaluation? Those items which, for the most part, from a HR department—we
somewhat take for granted—we think it's, "Oh, that's just general, simple knowledge
CHR. NAHUINA: Yes.
MR. BRILHANTE: or simple information." But, I think when somebody's new to the room
and they're new to the game, and they don't understand these things that we take for granted
there has to be a process in place that we can convey—and we can provide the managers with
that information. And, like I said, the Mayor has requested that we do that.
So, we will be doing a certification/management/supervisor training program within this year
and that's Goal 1.
Goal 2 is implementing a County -wide policy and evaluation program on the prevention of
workplace violence that's an item that it's, kind of, like, at the top of everybody's tongue right
now. It's in the forefront. I think we've come on board the County has amended and we've
disseminated our new Violence in the Workplace Policy. We've received responses from
we're required to consult with the unions before we implement any policy. So, we received
feedback from three of the unions. Unfortunately, the union that has historically given us
problems with this policy has been UPW—and we're still in the consultation process with them
going back and forth.
MALE: I hear you.
MR. BRILHANTE: And so, I'mI don't know why it's such an issue. It's, like I said, it's on
everybody's tongue and everybody knows—
CHR. NAHUINA: Yes.
MR. BRILHANTE: —right from wrong now—and I'm not sure why we're getting such push
back just from that one particular union. And going forward, that's a policy that we'd like to
—
a program that we'd like to implement and make sure everybody's on the same page and
everybody knows—all the "i's" that need to be dotted and the "t's" that need to be crossed.
MALE: Right.
MR. BRILHANTE: So, that's my Goal Number 2.
Number 3 is develop and implement a department -by -department safety program to help reduce
the frequency and expense associated with workers' compensation claims. I'm not sure if you're
aware or you paid attention to our departmental budget review at the county council, but one of
the areas I identified isour HR Department, as you know, is somewhat bifurcated. We have
the HR Human Resources component and, as a part of that, we have Health and Safety.
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And under Health and Safety, we have Workers' Comp. And our run—our HR Department runs
on a approximately 2-point—you know whatever budget—million dollar budget. And,
unfortunately, the Workers' Comp Division runs on an annual 2.1 million dollar budget as well.
And when we—when we're in this type of economic environment, every dollar counts—and
with the help of my deputy who has a strong risk management, safety—health and safety
background—we're implementing steps to do more of a structured analysis of the Workers'
Comp Division where we're establishing performance criteria as it relates to processing of cases
ensuring that the appropriate payments are being made to claimants and the like. And just,
somewhat, changing the mindset of the division so that it becomes more of a situation where
when a claimant files a claim, the approach is more of the fact that we value you as an employee.
We're going to understand that there's always bad apples no matter what you look at. There'll
always be bad apples or bad actors. And but, the approach that I would like to take and, again,
as seconded by my deputy—is the fact that we understand there's still bad apples. We
understand that there may be some issues—fraudulent claims—but, for the most part, they're not
when we look at these claims.
So, I think if we're able to change the mindset, we're able to address performance goals,
criteria's, and continually evaluate them. And the component is—and which I strongly believe
in and I said this at the council is—from my fire background. I firmly believe an ounce of
prevention is worth a pound of cure. I think if we address these situations, these circumstances,
we address the needs of the employees through the implementation of a much more progressive
safety program.
We're already started with Department of Environmental Management. There's discussion that
the next department we're going to look at, is establishing a safety program with Parks and
Recreation. The reason we picked those was `cause those are our highest repeat offenders
areas where we get the most claims outside of police and I believe the second one parks and
yeahso outside of those those are the areas.
So, we're implement—we're in discussion with the department's heads and the managers and
we're going to institute a safety program, which has some teeth to it. So, oftentimes, when you
talk "safety" or "safety programs"—it's always, like, the employees feel like"Oh, yeah, this is
a great thing"—and then, all of a sudden they start talking about issues and nothing ever gets
done. It's like, oh, thenso, they start getting the employee start getting disenfranchised
because there's no follow through.
The other thing is that happens with these programs is these programs quickly turn into a
complain session. There's another word that is generally used but, for my terminology, it just
turns out to be a complaining session and nothing really gets accomplished.
So, those are the two red flags or areas of concern that we want to ensure that going forward we
don't fall into that rut. We want these safety committees to be effective. We want them to be
positive. And we want the employees to know that they have confidence in that—they know,
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they bring something forward, it gets report to the committee, and then there's actually follow
through and follow-up.
CHR. NAHUINA: Yes.
MR. BRILHANTE: And I think those are the important factors and we're—and withagain,
with the deputy's help and with our health and safety division help that's what we're hoping
that through that process, we can then reduce the claims and the frequency of workers' comp
claims.
So, that's Goal Number 3. And we will haveI will provide measurable evidence to support
whether or not the program is successful and that'll be through the reduction of actual
expenditures and (inaudible).
And, that being said, we never can predict what may happen when it comes to the work
environment—anything can happen—with the police officer, they can always get hurt on the job
or a bad traffic accident, which we had with the Fire Department several years back where there
was a serious injury due to a head-on collision—one of our firemen. And those type of things
you can't help. They're going to happen.
CHR. NAHUINA: Right.
MR. BRILHANTE: But we're hoping that that will be the exception and not the norm. We're
hoping to address the issues that relates to the norm just the overall general type of injuries that
through health, through safety, through identification—we can help reduce those type of claims.
And, if our assumption is correct, by reducing those claims we'll also reduce the amount of
financial exposure that the County has. We can reduce that 2.1 million dollar budget.
The great part about it is anything we save in Workers' Comp—goes back to the General Fund.
So, that's what we're looking to do. And that's my goals going forward. I'm happy to take any
other advice or recommendations going forward from the MAB.
CHR. NAHUINA: I know that—when we look at Health and Safety—one of the things last time
we mentioned—we asked was about the Blue Zone Project.
MR. BRILHANTE: Yes.
CHR. NAHUINA: And that was continuing, causeI mean, certainly, that plays into workers'
comp—healthier people and (inaudible)—and then, also, I know in a meeting with Ms. Toriano,
in the past, she talked about CPR and first aid first responder training. There was a mix
between wanting to get the training and, also, how far the scope was going to be. So, I'm
wondering if you're looking at that also.
MR. BRILHANTE: I'm glad you mentioned that—that's something that I those issues were
something that I would, generally, incorporate into my quarterly report.
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CHR. NAHUINA: Okay.
MR. BRILHANTE: But, just to touch on it—it hadn't been lost.
CHR. NAHUINA: Okay.
MR. BRILHANTE: Two
CHR. NAHUINA: And that's more of a question.
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MR. BRILHANTE: Yeah. No—two weeks ago I met with Karen Teshima from HMSA and
she's the lead liaison here for the Blue Zones Project, County of Hawaii. So, following a
meeting she had with Mayor Kim, she went with then met with me and we decided we were
going to work together. We're going to make the County one of the employee -sponsored
programs that are there who will be in compliance with Blue Zone aCounty-wide.
Right now, what we have with the County is we have individual departments who've committed
to Blue Zone Projects Planning Department and the Prosecutors. So, we're going to implement
a County -wide program—Blue Zone compliance. And the way we see it is—it's low hanging
fruit
CHR. NAHUINA: Yeah.
MR. BRILHANTE: —from my perspective it is. If our mindset is going to be—County
workers, you're valued employees and we care about you, and we care about our family your
families. How better than to say, "Okay, this is the program we're supporting. Here's a regimen
where it tells you what type of exercise will be helpful. What type of dietary needs and things
you should be considering when you plan your meals"—and all that type of support service.
One of the things I noticed with the Planning Department is the their employ they regularly
have employee walking groups. So, like, maybe two or three times a day we'll see a group of,
maybe, five or six Planning Department employees. They'll walk around the building, like, three
or four times—not just 10-15 minutes. But, if you do that three times a day, it's all of a
sudden—its 45 minutes.
CHR. NAHUINA: Yes.
MR. BRILHANTE: And that's just something that—when you look at the workday for a County
employee—if you're going to—say 15 minutes in the morning that's a normal break you get
45 -minutes or an hour for lunch that's a normal break. And then you get your afternoon break.
So, when I say it's low hanging fruit, it doesn't cost the County anything.
CHR. NAHUINA: Yeah.
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MR. BRILHANTE: There's no expense associated with the County's operations. But, the good
part is, the hope and the emphasis isif we have happier employees, we have healthier
employees the reduction in sick leave or the reduction
CHR. NAHUINA: Absolutely.
MR. BRILHANTE: in the amount of time or leave request or even to the part where maybe in
reduction of (inaudible)—could all lead to that. And, if you have a healthier workforce the long
term medical needs, hopefully, will be reduced. And, I think, that's such a great benefit for the
County. So, it's a win-win from both sides in my estimation.
So, we will—our goal is to by July of this year—we're going to have a public notification and
a formal program where the County is identified as an official Blue Zone sponsor going
forward—County-wide.
As to the second issue with the CPR—as you know, that's such an important issue now with the
current administration. We all know the recent history with the Mayor. And so, in that regards
we've initiated an assessment of all of our the location of all of our EAD's (Sic.)a
reassessment of our automatic defibrillators. And we're making sure that they're in the right
location, we assess whether or not they're appropriate—if you have seven AED's in one location
on West Hawaii—what about all the other areas that the County serves. So, that's an
assessment we're undergoing right now.
The other training that we're providing and we continue to provide is the CPR training. Just to
let you know that I wasn't aware of this—my education with CPR was always the old American
Red Cross—
CHR. NAHUINA: Yes.
MR. BRILHANTE:—standards-2 breaths, 15 compressions, 2 breaths—right. Now, it's just
hands on—it's called "hands only CPR."
CHR. NAHUINA: Yes.
MR. BRILHANTE: And that's a policy that we're trying to implement within the County
again, to get as many of our employees trained to be able to perform that. I noticed that the
schools have done that, DOE has incorporated that into their curriculum as well. And so, that's
something moving forward that we're working on now is just—as a matter of fact, I was just
speaking to our trainer—what was it—maybe two days ago up at the EOC. And we're
addressing this issue directly.
So, those two items are both forthcoming.
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CHR. NAHUINA: One more question. This certification program for the manager training—is
that certification that they would receive—is that a national certification, a public certification,
the County what, where is it—
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MR. BRILHANTE: That's a very good question. There's no just through our research, there's
no real national type certification that we felt would be really applicable here. What we're trying
to establish is we're trying to establish a 12 -month training program. And we're looking to offer
a coursea monthly course through that program. And as the individual registers for the
courses there'll be 12 different courses—one will be job performance evaluation, for
example the other one would be conducting proper investigations or the like. And that'll be
offered monthly.
As the—as each employee completes the necessary courses, whether it be—we're looking at
either 8 mandatory courses or 12 or a variation in between those. And as the individual
completes that—those courses, then they'll get a County certification letter of recommend
letter of certification from the County saying that you've successfully completed the
supervisor/manager training program. And we're going to continue to keep those courses
offered regularly so each of the managers can come in and do it.
And we can't, at this stage, when I had this discussion with the managing director—he's going
toI don't have the authority to make it mandatory, but the managing director does.
CHR. NAHUINA: Okay.
MR. BRILHANTE: And he said he's very—he's in favor of us—of him doing that. And we've
already had discussions with him on other topic areas, like, mandatory interview training or
mandatory skillset review for hiring—fol lowing some of those issues that arose. And the
managing director was very supportive and he instituted mandatory attendance policy for those,
and I think we need that. There has to be some bite there—
CHR. NAHUINA: Absolutely.
MR. BRILHANTE: although nobody's going to sign up for it—"Oh, wow, how I going do
this? I'm too busy." Yeah. So, if we make it mandatory, and we say as a new supervisor comes
in, they have maybe 18 months to complete the program. `Cause we understand that they're not
going to be able to meet every class offering. So, there'll be some latitude. But, I think, the fact
that it is mandatory, it is supported by the administrationI think that will go forward with
getting participation and a better understanding of the importance.
CHR. NAHUINA: And, along with that idea of the certification—oftentimes appeals brought
before the Merit Appeals Board deal with not meeting minimum requirements. Is—would these
types of certifications or classes be open to people not necessarily in that administrative position
so that when they apply, they would have that certification or to meet minimum requirements
with—help them. I mean, obviously, it looks good but that's always a concern for people—for
the cases that we see here and we see that more often.
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MR. BRILHANTE: That—you're absolutely correct. Oftentimes when we look atoh,
Mr. Makaio, for example—and I'm only bringing it up `cause his case was on open record
although Iso, we look at—"Do I meet, do I have the skillset, the necessary skillset to be a
manager?" Always"Oh, how do you gain that?" What's the—"Where do you go to get that
skillset?" Because if you don't have it, who's going to hire you? You'll never get through that
first hurdle.
So, I think, if we open it up County -wide and we open it up to the employees—and, again,
they're going to have to coordinate their attendance with their various department heads—
CHR. NAHUINA: Yes.
MR. BRILHANTE: —and the like—scheduling. I think if we open it up, there will be
individuals who are—who have strong desires and are desirous of career advancement. And if
we're able to offer these classes to them, I would have to have a specific discussion with our
recruitment division to have to sit down and really look closely as to whether or not this
supervisor certification can be considered—some type of—given it some type of consideration
where it relates to their experience the experience requirements for a manager, that's a
discussion that we're going to have later. But, I think my personal feeling is to open it up as to
many County employees as possible.
CHR. NAHUINA: Very nice.
MR. BRILHANTE: I think if we're all, kind of, all on the same page—and we all operate on the
same page and we all have a general basic understanding of what the requirements are going
forward—more often than not, it's been my experience that dealing through the grievances and
the labor issues is more often than not, it's like nobody's doing it—most often people aren't
acting intentionally when it comes to an issue that maybe they didn't meet the procedure
requirements. I think, oftentimes, the reason they end up in a situation is because they just didn't
know. Had they known, they would have done it.
And I thinkI see that more often than not, especially with the type of employees we have here.
And I think if we can provide that knowledge base, if we can open up their understanding of why
these processes are here—what's the necessity for them, and how they affect the employeesI
think we just able to provide that knowledge. I think that would go a long ways with helping us
just operate more effectively and more efficiently down the road as a governmental body.
CHR. NAHUINA: Absolutely. Thank you.
MR. BRILHANTE: I think the other thing that you guys are going to have to agree upon is the
evaluation as far as sending out the survey.
CHR. NAHUINA: Yes.
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MR. BRILHANTE: And that's a discussion I think, as a body, you're going to have to agree
to—is that something you want to do going forward and the timelines and stuff associated with
that. I think there's a page this yellow page, may help the understanding the process. And,
Glynis, you can chime in at any time.
CHR. NAHUINA: Yes. So, are we using the same survey that we used with Ms. Toriano?
MS. YAMADA: It's up to you, if you want to make any changes to the questions.
MR. TAM: It's just awkward—it says "Sharon Toriano"
MS. YAMADA: Oh—where is that?
MR. BRILHANTE: Line 1, the green
MS. YAMADA: The green one.
MR. BRILHANTE: Yeah, right there.
MS. YAMADA: Oh, okay
MR. BRILHANTE: I'm more than happy if you guys want to send that out.
MR. TAM: I thought the survey that we used last year was very informative and it helped us get
a good grasp on how well the Human Resource Director was doing, at that time.
MR. CHILLINGWORTH: Good.
MR. TAM: So, I'm happy to continue using this survey that we used last year.
CHR. NAHUINA: I would agree.
MR. CHILLINGWORTH: Good. Let's do it.
CHR. NAHUINA: Okay.
MR. BRILHANTE: And if it means anything on my evaluation, I think it's a fair assessment
and a fair tool to assess the director as well.
CHR. NAHUINA: Okay.
MR. YOSHIMOTO: So, just that one change with the name, yeah?
MR. TAM: Yes.
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CHR. NAHUINA: Yes.
MR. YOSHIMOTO: Note that for the record.
MR. TAM: (Inaudible.)
MR. BRILHANTE: Well, let's see the results first.
CHR. NAHUINA: Do we need a motion?
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MR. YOSHIMOTO: Yeah. So, it's just so we can make the record clear. A motion to make
that one change.
MR. TAM: Name change?
MR. YOSHIMOTO: Yeah.
MR. TAM: Okay. So, I move that we make an amendment to the existing survey to reflect
Mr. Brilhante'sreplacing Sharon Toriano's name.
CHR. NAHUINA: Do I hear a second?
MR. CHILLINGWORTH: Second.
CHR. NAHUINA: All those in favor say "aye."
AYES: Members Chillingworth, Tam, and Chair Nahuina — 3.
ABSENT: Member Luahiwa Namahoe — 1.
NOES: None.
EXCUSED: None.
CHR. NAHUINA: Same sign—ayes have it. Motion is carried. We will be using the same
survey and making the change from "Sharon Toriano" to the new director, William Brilhante. I
keep thinking we're going to have (inaudible).
MR. TAM: I also make a motion that we accept and use the same existing survey that we used
last year for this year's evaluation of the Human Resource Director.
MR. CHILLINGWORTH: Second.
CHR. NAHUINA: All those in favor say "aye." All those opposed?
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AYES: Members Chillingworth, Tam, and Chair Nahuina – 3.
ABSENT: Member Luahiwa Namahoe – 1.
NOES: None.
EXCUSED: None.
CHR. NAHUINA: Same sign the ayes have it. Motion carries.
MR. YOSHIMOTO: As far as the deadline as to when you want to get it out?
CHR. NAHUINA: Deadlines for this
MR. TAM: Get that timeline on that yellow sheet, right?
CHR. NAHUINA: Yes.
May 9, 2018
MR. BRILHANTE: I will and if I just may interject and provide some information. As you
know, the County's currently undergoing a serious natural hazard with the ongoing lava flow.
And I know from my perspective we're required to be up at the Emergency Operation Center at
Civil Defense every morning. And the majority of the department heads are there throughout the
day, and I know they're running 24-hour shifts.
I'm not sure how that relates to being able to send out the survey and get an adequate response or
sufficient or significant response from the department heads, if all their attentions are currently
being placed—directed towards the ongoing eruption. So, I'm not sure how we're already
May 8th or May 9th—and the May 31" deadline I just want to put that out there.
MS. YAMADA: In the past, the department heads had about eight working days to
CHR. NAHUINA: Yeah, I was going to say it wasn't really long. It was
MS. YAMADA: Yeah, it wasn't too long. Last year, we sent it out May 15 and then the
deadline was May 31st that's more than 8 business days.
CHR. NAHUIINA: Is your recommendation that it be moved in some way or lengthened or
shortened—what is your recommendation on this?
MR. BRILHANTE: I'm just I always work from the end. The end product to how we back
track in—and the evaluation will actually be conducted—
MS. YAMADA: Normally, our deadline is May 31" for all the previous years.
MR. BRILHANTE: Okay.
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MS. YAMADA: And then, in the past, it's at least 8 working days that they had to respond.
But, last year, we sent out the survey on the 15''so that's about 12-15 days.
MR. BRILHANTE: Okay. So, I guess, the—my question would be why May 15''? Is there a
deadline down the road that the MAB had to, kind of, had to be in compliance with or
MR. YOSHIMOTO: Well, the evaluation occurs—
CHR. NAHUINA: The evaluation occurs in June—
MR. BRILHANTE: Yeah, so
MR. YOSHIMOTO: Yeah, but we can send it earlier.
MR. BRILHANTE: Yeah. Is there a necessity that we have that evaluation during the June
meeting or is there some latitude to move it? Or is, I guess, that's the question.
MR. YOSHIMOTO: That's in the Rule.
MR. BRILHANTE: Okay.
MR. YOSHIMOTO: Yeah. So, we could send it out earlier
MR. TAM: Might a better idea to send it out earlier because things are definitely being pushed
out on the back burner, right?
MR. YOSHIMOTO: Yeah.
MR. TAM: And so, it gives them time to sort through and prioritize their work andobviously,
that's in their eyes, it's not a priority. It is for us, but not them.
MR. CHILLINGWORTH: Right.
MR. YOSHIMOTO: So, keep the same deadlines and give them more time, right? Glynis, is
there a problem with sending out—
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MR. TAM: You think that might help?
MS. YAMADA: No problem. I'll just need to coordinate with IT
MR. TAM: Okay.
MS. YAMADA: as far as the SurveyMonkey.
MR. TAM: So, as soon as they can—and not necessarily give them a date/deadline?
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MR. YOSHIMOTO: Then we do it that way, yeah?
MR. TAM: Yeah.
MS. YAMADA: Yeah, I'll get in touch with them. I sent them an e-mail regarding their
assistance in getting the SurveyMonkey going. I'll follow-up again, see how soon.
CHR. NAHUINA: And if—because it's a longer time period, I think sometimes—although we
prioritize our—is there a way that we can send a reminder as we get to
MS. YAMADA: Yeah, we can.
CHR. NAHUINA: That would be a good idea.
MS. YAMADA: How soon would you like a reminder sent out? If it's due on May 31st, when
would do you like the reminder sent out?
MR. TAM: Maybe on the 15thif it goes out in the next couple of days depending on IT's
MS. YAMADA: Well, I'm hoping IT can
MR. TAM: Right.
MS. YAMADA: —get everything set up by this Friday.
CHR. NAHUINA: Oh, okay.
MS. YAMADA: I'm hoping.
CHR. NAHUINA: Maybe the Monday prio the 31" is what day of the week?
MS. YAMADA: Thursday.
CHR. NAHUINA: That's the Thursday. So, maybe Monday?
MS. YAMADA: Monday is Memorial Dayso, Tuesday, the 29th?
CHR. NAHUINA: That's too late that's only 2 days -3 days as a reminder. Well, hopefully,
they've done it already, right? They haven't put it off.
MS. YAMADA: So, whatever date you tell me then, I'll
MR. TAM: What about the 25th?
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MS. YAMADA: The 25h?
CHR. NAHUINA: The 25'.
MR. CHILLINGWORTH: I think that would be wise.
CHR. NAHUINA: You think so yeah. Let's go with the 25h. I would agree.
May 9, 2018
MR. BRILHANTE: I guess from my just from my perspective isI noticed that the
performance evaluation is for FY2017 to 18—and as we know, I was only appointed to this
position on March of 2018. So, I guess, is there going to be some notation or some type of -
MR. TAM: No, we're holding your feet to the fire. You hit the ground—he hit the ground
running. I think that will be on—in everyone's mind as far as when we do the evaluation.
CHR. NAHUINA: We can put that in the cover letter.
MR. TAM: Do we need that—
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MS. YAMADA: I can put that in the message.
CHR. NAHUINA: Yes, in the cover letter.
MR. BRILHANTE: Perfect. I mean, not that I don't want to take credit for somebody else's
work but
CHR. NAHUINA: I think something similar to Ms. Toriano's when she—'cause she was in a
similar situation.
MS. YAMADA: `Cause for Ms. Toriano, we didn't put in any notation that she started later, so
we can always do that for Bill—for this one?
CHR. NAHUINA: Let's do that.
MR. TAM: There's no problems with that?
MR. CHILLINGWORTH: We should do that.
CHR. NAHUINA: We should do that.
MS. YAMADA: So, if you guys could state what language you'd like.
MR. YOSHIMOTO: Okay. So—wait—let's get, let's finish up the deadline to get the survey
out. So, the motion would be to—go ahead.
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MR. TAM: Okay. So, I move that we send out the survey as soon as IT is able to do so for the
Human Resource Director Evaluation.
MR. YOSHIMOTO: And the follow-up reminder on May 25.
MR. TAM: And follow-up reminder on May 25tH
MR. CHILLINGWORTH: Second.
CHR. NAHUINA: Moved and—all those in favor? All those opposed?
AYES: Members Chillingworth, Tam, and Chair Nahuina – 3.
ABSENT: Member Luahiwa Namahoe – 1.
NOES: None.
EXCUSED: None.
CHR. NAHUINA: Same sign the ayes have it. It's been moved and seconded that we'll send
out the survey as soon as possible and a follow-up letter will be—reminder will be sent out on
the 25h.
MS. YAMADA: And the deadline on the 31st
CHR. NAHUINA: With a deadline on the 31st yes.
MR. TAM: Yes—no change on that.
CHR. NAHUINA: And we have the language, now, to look at for the letter to reflect
Mr. Brilhante's position change.
MR. YOSHIMOTO: So, probably after the first sentence, right? You may want to say that the
current director started on such and such date—or something to that effect, so it's crystal clear.
Bill, when was your official start date?
MR. BRILHANTE: March 1st
MR. YOSHIMOTO: March lst
MR. TAM: Maybe after—County's Human Resource Department—and the current Human
Resource Director, Mr. William Brilhante, who began his term March 31st?
MR. CHILLINGWORTH: March lst
MR. TAM: Oh, March I". I'm sorry.
CHR. NAHUINA: March lst
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MR. TAM: March 1st
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MR. BRILHANTE: So, language I propose iswe go, that first sentence, and to the end of the
first sentence it goes—"the services"—at Line 4—"the services provided by the County's
Human Resource Department" "and its Director, William V. Brilhante, who was appointed on
March I" of 2018"
MR. YOSHIMOTO: Sounds good.
MR. BRILHANTE: —and then, "Your participation is voluntary
MR. TAM: So, I make a motion that we amend the e-mail to the County department
directors/administrators, et cetera, to reflect what he said. Can you use my voice and say what
you just said?
CHR. NAHUINA: All those in favor say "aye." Those opposed?
AYES: Members Chillingworth, Tam, and Chair Nahuina – 3.
ABSENT: Member Luahiwa Namahoe – 1.
NOES: None.
EXCUSED: None.
CHR. NAHUINA: Same sign—ayes have it, motion carries.
MR. TAM: That was so beautifully
CHR. NAHUINA: Eloquent.
MR. TAM: Yes.
CHR. NAHUINA: I like that change that's good.
MR. TAM: I'm going to need someone to write my eulogy before I pass away. Are you
available?
MS. YAMADA: So, can I please confirm that you folks will send out the survey to "County
Department Directors, Program Administrators, and Human Resources Representatives?" Is that
going to remain the same?
CHR. NAHUINA: Yes. I would think so. Do we need a motion for that?
MR. YOSHIMOTO: No, good. Basically, you had the motion approving the letter
CHR. NAHUINA: Approving the letter
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MR. YOSHIMOTO: —with that change.
CHR. NAHUINA: Yes. Okay. And, is there anything else for this appraisal? Glynis to extract
survey results.
MR. YOSHIMOTO: Glynis, that takes care of it, I think, right?
CHR. NAHUINA: I think that does. Mr. Brilhante?
MR. BRILHANTE: Thank you very much. I have nothing further to add. Thank you.
MR. TAM: Thank you.
MR. CHILLINGWORTH: Thank you.
Schedule Next Meeting Date (Item 8)
Chair Nahuina announced that their next regularly scheduled meeting would be held on
Wednesday, June 20, at 9:00 a.m. at the Department of Human Resources Conference Room,
101 Pauahi Street, Suite 2, Hilo.
Adjournment (Item 9)
There being no other business, the Chair declared the meeting adjourned at 10:20 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
/ p/kg,614_
Glynis Yamada, Secretary-Reporter
APPROVED:
David K. S. Nahuina, Chair
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